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Shacklermyrye
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Re: The General and Monsters

Randall Flagg wrote:
misterID wrote:

I still can’t get over what a colossal clusterfuck this entire release has been. Why would you tack on two of the most sought after and anticipated tracks of the CD era to a B-side for a vinyl single? They’re better than Hardskool and way better than Absurd. The press was great for Perhaps, he has goodwill with the media, The General would have been heralded because of the child abuse aspect. Whoever is making these decisions needs to step back and get someone in there who has an actual plan and knows how to execute it.

The leaks were the only good thing that came from this. They screwed up every step of this process. They can blame the vinyl plant, but these songs should never have been released like this to begin with


Has it been confirmed Monsters is on the vinyl too?

No.

slashsfro
 Rep: 53 

Re: The General and Monsters

slashsfro wrote:
misterID wrote:

Whoever is making these decisions needs to step back and get someone in there who has an actual plan and knows how to execute it.

The leaks were the only good thing that came from this. They screwed up every step of this process. They can blame the vinyl plant, but these songs should never have been released like this to begin with

You and I both know which group is responsible for this.  It’s funny because the part about dumping this as a B side is just tone deafness on them understanding their fanbase, especially the hardcore portion, which they revile.

dave-gnfnr
 Rep: 16 

Re: The General and Monsters

dave-gnfnr wrote:
misterID wrote:

I still can’t get over what a colossal clusterfuck this entire release has been. Why would you tack on two of the most sought after and anticipated tracks of the CD era to a B-side for a vinyl single? They’re better than Hardskool and way better than Absurd. The press was great for Perhaps, he has goodwill with the media, The General would have been heralded because of the child abuse aspect. Whoever is making these decisions needs to step back and get someone in there who has an actual plan and knows how to execute it.

The leaks were the only good thing that came from this. They screwed up every step of this process. They can blame the vinyl plant, but these songs should never have been released like this to begin with

because a house keeper and pool boy are running the band lol

misterID
 Rep: 476 

Re: The General and Monsters

misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Has it been confirmed Monsters is on the vinyl too?

The only confirmation is the name “General and Monsters”, and Fernando’s little quip about General being a monster. You know, because everything needs to be vague and a secret for “reasons”

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: The General and Monsters

James wrote:
misterID wrote:

I still can’t get over what a colossal clusterfuck this entire release has been. Why would you tack on two of the most sought after and anticipated tracks of the CD era to a B-side for a vinyl single?

If you wanted to quickly and quietly start wrapping up the Chinese saga without releasing an album...this is exactly how you would do it.

They could have easily just added crap like Eye On You or some other throwaway as a B side. Nobody but hardcores care about B sides to already dead singles.

Instead we get two big guns for the price of one.

How often are they that generous?

benny
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Re: The General and Monsters

benny wrote:

I don't own any vinyl so I'm hoping that these tracks do get a digital release too.  I have the demos thanks to this forum but it would definitely be cool to get official versions.

wagszilla
 Rep: 3 

Re: The General and Monsters

wagszilla wrote:
misterID wrote:

If you wanted to quickly and quietly start wrapping up the Chinese saga without releasing an album...this is exactly how you would do it.

The idea of releasing these songs under the cloak of midnight is ridiculous. Firstly, they're prostituting New Gn'R's work in the press and on their own marketing ("first song in 20 years", etc.) and secondly, by yours and others own admission, no one cares. This isn't going to create some giant egg on their face moment or affect ticket sales. It's purely giving something to your most loyal fans who likely are going to buy it come hell or high water.

This all could've been done and dusted years ago. Reach an agreement with New Gn'R members, drop an EP of 2 CD leftovers and 2 live tracks every leg, and repeat. Hold back the most commercial songs for lead singles for new tours and repeat.

But as Dave said, this band is managed by the pool boy whose chief duty is massaging the ego of the boy prince.

vedder73
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Re: The General and Monsters

vedder73 wrote:

Hello everyone.
Can I ask you to get the file via PM please?
Thanks a lot

dave-gnfnr
 Rep: 16 

Re: The General and Monsters

dave-gnfnr wrote:
wagszilla wrote:
misterID wrote:

If you wanted to quickly and quietly start wrapping up the Chinese saga without releasing an album...this is exactly how you would do it.

The idea of releasing these songs under the cloak of midnight is ridiculous. Firstly, they're prostituting New Gn'R's work in the press and on their own marketing ("first song in 20 years", etc.) and secondly, by yours and others own admission, no one cares. This isn't going to create some giant egg on their face moment or affect ticket sales. It's purely giving something to your most loyal fans who likely are going to buy it come hell or high water.

This all could've been done and dusted years ago. Reach an agreement with New Gn'R members, drop an EP of 2 CD leftovers and 2 live tracks every leg, and repeat. Hold back the most commercial songs for lead singles for new tours and repeat.

But as Dave said, this band is managed by the pool boy whose chief duty is massaging the ego of the boy prince.

The reason why no one cares is bc it does not sound like AFD Gnr.  Its just Slash and Duffs take on the CD era stuff
Until they all actualy write new stuff together that sounds like classic GNR, no one will care.

thiago
 Rep: 0 

Re: The General and Monsters

thiago wrote:
dave-gnfnr wrote:
wagszilla wrote:
misterID wrote:

If you wanted to quickly and quietly start wrapping up the Chinese saga without releasing an album...this is exactly how you would do it.

The idea of releasing these songs under the cloak of midnight is ridiculous. Firstly, they're prostituting New Gn'R's work in the press and on their own marketing ("first song in 20 years", etc.) and secondly, by yours and others own admission, no one cares. This isn't going to create some giant egg on their face moment or affect ticket sales. It's purely giving something to your most loyal fans who likely are going to buy it come hell or high water.

This all could've been done and dusted years ago. Reach an agreement with New Gn'R members, drop an EP of 2 CD leftovers and 2 live tracks every leg, and repeat. Hold back the most commercial songs for lead singles for new tours and repeat.

But as Dave said, this band is managed by the pool boy whose chief duty is massaging the ego of the boy prince.

The reason why no one cares is bc it does not sound like AFD Gnr.  Its just Slash and Duffs take on the CD era stuff
Until they all actualy write new stuff together that sounds like classic GNR, no one will care.

They will never sound like AFD again, and that's OK

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