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tejastech08
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Re: Axl Rose - Criminally underrated lyricist.

tejastech08 wrote:
Riad wrote:

Are you prepared to draw a line between the two?

Absolutely.

Re: Axl Rose - Criminally underrated lyricist.

Lomax wrote:
tejastech08 wrote:
Riad wrote:

Are you prepared to draw a line between the two?

Absolutely.

Fair enough then, from that point of view Dylan holds superiority over those older guys.

Axlin16
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Re: Axl Rose - Criminally underrated lyricist.

Axlin16 wrote:

Would any of you say that Cobain is as good as Dylan?








That's what alot of critics have said. Just curious for the thoughts.

misterID
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Re: Axl Rose - Criminally underrated lyricist.

misterID wrote:

People compared Eminem to Dylan when he was the big thing of the moment. Anytime I hear a Dylan comparison I stop reading...

Axlin16
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Re: Axl Rose - Criminally underrated lyricist.

Axlin16 wrote:

I agree. Even if you're not a fan of Dylan, it's so overplayed and such an overused analogy at this point, that you usually know it's coming from a view of bias.

Re: Axl Rose - Criminally underrated lyricist.

Lomax wrote:
Axlin12 wrote:

Would any of you say that Cobain is as good as Dylan?

That's what alot of critics have said. Just curious for the thoughts.

I'm not being a dick but the whole Dylan thing confuses me. Sure he's great but more maybe it's more for his integrity than his lyrics?

misterID
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Re: Axl Rose - Criminally underrated lyricist.

misterID wrote:

His integrity? No. 16

tejastech08
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Re: Axl Rose - Criminally underrated lyricist.

tejastech08 wrote:
Riad wrote:
Axlin12 wrote:

Would any of you say that Cobain is as good as Dylan?

That's what alot of critics have said. Just curious for the thoughts.

I'm not being a dick but the whole Dylan thing confuses me. Sure he's great but more maybe it's more for his integrity than his lyrics?

No, it's the lyrics.

Axlin12 wrote:

Would any of you say that Cobain is as good as Dylan?

That's what alot of critics have said. Just curious for the thoughts.

Classic case of "overrated dead guy" syndrome by the media. Bob Dylan at a younger age than Kurt Cobain was writing far better lyrics, and people fucking take it for granted. Dylan was writing with the wisdom of a 50 or 60 year old in his early 20's, yet he had the rebellious "youth" thing going at the same time. Cobain wasn't even close to his league. But when you die young, the media tends to overexaggerate.

apex-twin
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Re: Axl Rose - Criminally underrated lyricist.

apex-twin wrote:
Riad wrote:
tejastech08 wrote:

Dylan's songwriting destroys Berry's songwriting and pretty much everyone else's songwriting in the last 60 years. There are very few in his league from that standpoint. As far as the before and after thing goes,

Bold statement. Leonard Cohen, Tom Waits, Van Morrison and David Bowie disagree.

All those are greats.

I like Ian Curtis, Michael Stipe and Andrew Eldritch, too.

Also, Mark Burgess from The Chameleons is an unsung champion.

Re: Axl Rose - Criminally underrated lyricist.

johndivney wrote:

kurt is still underrated

easily as fine a lyricist & songwriter as either cohen or waits. or bowie. van's a different matter tho. he's a conduit for the universe's soul.
kurt was definitely tapped into that collective unconscious bullshit. voice of the apathetic disaffected bullshitters. he is for young people, forever. cohen is for old ladies while waits is for old men. bowie's kinda for everyone ok but a bit embarrassing also sometimes.

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