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Re: Life on Mars?? Starting to look that way...
I'm sure an intelligent civilization could adapt, but there'd be architecture ala Total Recall to support such a civilization. You certainly wouldn't see a "sasquatch" type creature walking down a martian slope. I'm not saying intelligent life doesn't exist in the universe (I believe it does) or that it may have one time existed on Mars ( Mars was once very similar to Earth), but there is no intelligent life on Mars now.
that is my theory on the subject...the pictures are intriguing though thats for sure
- DoubleTalkingJive
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Re: Life on Mars?? Starting to look that way...
I'm sure an intelligent civilization could adapt, but there'd be architecture ala Total Recall to support such a civilization. You certainly wouldn't see a "sasquatch" type creature walking down a martian slope. I'm not saying intelligent life doesn't exist in the universe (I believe it does) or that it may have one time existed on Mars ( Mars was once very similar to Earth), but there is no intelligent life on Mars now.
Is it possible they took this figure from the famous Sasquatch footage shot by a man on a horse, in the 60's I think. I'll try to find it later.
Re: Life on Mars?? Starting to look that way...
It isn't fake. If it was a photoshop job, they would have done it better and astronomers all over the world wouldn't be analyzing it.
Our society is so jaded. People can watch wrestling, reality shows, and american idol without blinking an eye but question the authenticity of a pic from space.
Flagg, you really think Mars is "sterile"? Gimme a break. There might not be people walking around, but it sure as shit aint sterile. You do realize if there was just a bit more oxygen there we could actually live there don't you? It'd be colder than a witch's tit, but we could live there.
I think its a bit arrogant to claim its sterile and there's nothing there. All signs since the 70's point to there being something there, even if its a dead civilization.
Re: Life on Mars?? Starting to look that way...
Oooh, being such an X-Files fan I can already tell I'm gonna love this thread. Thanks for posting those, James. "Smoking gun" is damn right. Man, that pic sort of creeps me out, to be honest. Don't worry, I'll have something worthwhile to contribute when I'm not so groggy.
By the way, Randall Flagg, you wouldn't happen to be a fan of Howard Chaykin's American Flagg! graphic novels, would you? I sure am. I'm co-writing a script right now called Burning Flagg where I've even named the main character Eddie Flagg. Just, it's an interesting spelling if you didn't take it from the same source.
- Randall Flagg
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Re: Life on Mars?? Starting to look that way...
Umm, there is nothing arrogant about it; it's a scientific fact. The reason Earth is protected from Solar Winds and Radiation is because of our magnetic field and ozone layer. Mars is geologically dead, it lacks the strong magnetic force the Earth has that deflects solar winds. It also lacks the Ozone layer. These are simple facts that can be googled in a second. No scientist that I'm aware of has ever claimed that life existed on the surface, certainly not to the extent you're claiming.
James, I respect you as a poster, but you're going nutso over two blurry photos, one taken from space even. You're basing a belief in intelligent life on Mars because of an image that slightly resembles a humanoid walking. Don't you think that in the thousands of pictures available we'd have seen something more, maybe even vegetation? You can buy telescopes that can view the martian surface from your back yard, do don't give me some govt coverup excuse. Your statement is about as scientifically grounded as claiming the moon is made of cheese - literally.
edit : Astronomy and our knowledge of the planets has increased DRAMATICALLY over the past 20 years. They thought there would be vegitation and plant life on Mars during the 70s until we actually reached the planet.
Here is a link from Britannica explaining why teh surface is sterile. : http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9110149/Mars
- Randall Flagg
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Re: Life on Mars?? Starting to look that way...
Oooh, being such an X-Files fan I can already tell I'm gonna love this thread. Thanks for posting those, James. "Smoking gun" is damn right. Man, that pic sort of creeps me out, to be honest. Don't worry, I'll have something worthwhile to contribute when I'm not so groggy.
By the way, Randall Flagg, you wouldn't happen to be a fan of Howard Chaykin's American Flagg! graphic novels, would you? I sure am. I'm co-writing a script right now called Burning Flagg where I've even named the main character Eddie Flagg. Just, it's an interesting spelling if you didn't take it from the same source.
Re: Life on Mars?? Starting to look that way...
So there's water and God only knows what else there, but we're willing to call it sterile? Sounds like Bush declaring "Mission Accomplished" five minutes after invading.
I don't care if an Encyclopedia claims its sterile and there's nothing there. Hundreds of yeara ago people would have sworn on their mothers' graves that the world was flat. Do you think the world is flat because someone said it was?
There isn't enough known about Mars to declare it anything. A few planetary surveys and rovers isn't enough to write the final chapter. We haven't even written the prologue yet.
I aint giving any conspiracy excuses. I don't know why you feel the need to bring that up. I guess you think bringing that up somehow makes the info irrelevant. These are NASA photographs for fucks sake. If it was being covered up the photos wouldn't be here.
I don't think anyone is claiming there's a huge party being held by a martian civilization, and this pic is taken of someone who left the party needing some fresh air. These photos just add to the long list of reasons for why we need to go there as soon as possible and answer these questions. Since the beginning of mankind, we have been fascinated by Mars. The more we learn, the more intriguing it gets.
- Randall Flagg
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Re: Life on Mars?? Starting to look that way...
Dude, it's science. The surface is exposed to extreme levels of radiation. Water DOES not exist on the surface. It evaporates as soon as it would breech. These are laws of biology and physics. I'm done with this topic. Obviously some people get emotional over it and I have no interest in offending people. Live Long and Prosper.
Re: Life on Mars?? Starting to look that way...
There are Ice Caps at the poles. They recede with the seasons, they don't "evaporate". If they evaporate, where do the next season's ice caps come from?
No one is claiming the pacific ocean is there. Haven't read about Mars in ages, but those ice caps are pretty damn thin.
Yes, the conditions on Mars are not meant for a nice afternoon picnic, but to think the place is dead is a bit drastic.
Who's getting emotional? Its a discussion about Mars for god's sake.
Re: Life on Mars?? Starting to look that way...
We're both right regarding that. They're seasonal, but the caps do bypass the liquid state....
Mars has ice caps on both its north and south poles. The ice caps are made of water ice and carbon dioxide ice (dry ice). There are two kinds of ice caps on Mars: seasonal ice caps and residual ice caps. Seasonal ice caps accumulate during the winter season, and evaporate during the summer. The residual caps remain during the entire year.
Martian North Polar Cap. NASA/JPL.
Mars seasonal ice caps are entirely dry ice that is about 1 meter thick. The southern seasonal cap measures about 4000 km across when its largest during southern winter, and the northern cap measures about 3000 km across at its largest, during northern winter. When summer temperatures rise above 150K (-120 C), the ice sublimes (passes directly from the solid state into the gaseous state, bypassing the liquid state) into the atmosphere. Large seasonal changes in the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere cause large seasonal changes, up to 30% different, in the atmospheric pressure on Mars.
