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- Jimmy Zig Zag Bobiadis
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Re: Led Zeppelin
Jimmy Zig Zag Bobiadis wrote:tejastech08 wrote:Nothing really other than the fact that Sebastian Bach is a hack compared to Zeppelin.
Ever seen Sebastian live? I'd much rather go to one of his shows and watch him do his thing than see some 60 year old farts have a heart attack on stage.
That's just retarded. Its Led fucking Zeppelin. And judging by the boots those "old farts" can still rock the fuck out.
i've never been a huge Zeppelin fan tho dude. they had some good songs and all, but I think it would have been better left back in the 70s.
Re: Led Zeppelin
Pride&Glory wrote:Jimmy Zig Zag Bobiadis wrote:Ever seen Sebastian live? I'd much rather go to one of his shows and watch him do his thing than see some 60 year old farts have a heart attack on stage.
That's just retarded. Its Led fucking Zeppelin. And judging by the boots those "old farts" can still rock the fuck out.
i've never been a huge Zeppelin fan tho dude. they had some good songs and all, but I think it would have been better left back in the 70s.
That I can understand. I just didn't take it seriously with the old fart comments. Love em or dislike them they forever left their mark on music in general and by the ticket sales and recent merch sales the world still wants their Zeppelin.
- tejastech08
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Re: Led Zeppelin
Jimmy Zig Zag Bobiadis wrote:Pride&Glory wrote:That's just retarded. Its Led fucking Zeppelin. And judging by the boots those "old farts" can still rock the fuck out.
i've never been a huge Zeppelin fan tho dude. they had some good songs and all, but I think it would have been better left back in the 70s.
My point. I mean, I like Zep and all, but I'm not ready to fall all over myself over this show. It sounded average at best to me. That's my opinion. I realize it's really cool to just jump on the bandwagon and say the show was amazing, but all the footage I've seen makes me the otherwise for myself.
Have you ever seen some of the footage of Zeppelin even in their prime? They were NEVER the most flawless live performers. Page was on heroine most of the time and consequently his playing typically sucked compared to the times when he actually was sober or in the studio. However, they created a kickass energy at all of their shows and that is why a lot of people loved to go see them. If you've ever seen the movie The Song Remains The Same, you'll know what I'm talking about when I say that even at their peak they were never perfect performers. I personally thought they kicked ass the other day. Jimmy at 63 and sober > Jimmy at 30 and fucked up on drugs.
Re: Led Zeppelin
One strike against Zeppelin is the fact some of their tracks are just so fucking epic that they could never do them justice, regardless of what decade they perform the songs live.
Tragic that Bonham died when he did. Zep could have pulled some interesting shit out of their hats with what was going on musically in the 80's.
- tejastech08
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Re: Led Zeppelin
One strike against Zeppelin is the fact some of their tracks are just so fucking epic that they could never do them justice, regardless of what decade they perform the songs live.
Tragic that Bonham died when he did. Zep could have pulled some interesting shit out of their hats with what was going on musically in the 80's.
I don't know. They were pretty much done being creative by the time he died. Physical Graffiti is a masterpiece, but everything after it was kind of "meh" with the exception of a few incredible songs like Achilles Last Stand.
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Oh I agree the tail end of their discography sucks big time. However, all great bands have low points. They were just in a funk. When they were playing their "A game", they were untouchable.
I could picture Zep coming back in 83 with something that would have blown minds. Plant kicked ass through most of the 80's, and he did it with just bland cookie cutter safe rock. Throw Bonham, Page, and Jones into the mix, and something great would have come of it.
Only song Plant did in the 80's even coming close to Zep territory is Big Log, and Zep could have turned that into something amazing.
Plant's 93 album Fate of Nations was pretty damn good.
- tejastech08
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Re: Led Zeppelin
Oh I agree the tail end of their discography sucks big time. However, all great bands have low points. They were just in a funk. When they were playing their "A game", they were untouchable.
I could picture Zep coming back in 83 with something that would have blown minds. Plant kicked ass through most of the 80's, and he did it with just bland cookie cutter safe rock. Throw Bonham, Page, and Jones into the mix, and something great would have come of it.
Only song Plant did in the 80's even coming close to Zep territory is Big Log, and Zep could have turned that into something amazing.
Plant's 93 album Fate of Nations was pretty damn good.
Yeah to be fair to Zep, they had a lot of bad shit go down in the mid to late 70's. Plant in particular had two major obstacles in his life. He and his wife almost died in a car accident in 1975. He recorded Presence while he was still in a wheelchair after the accident. In 1977, his son died of a stomach infection.
Plant told one interviewer, "I had a couple of bad knocks which, no matter what happens, will always have taken their toll on me. I know that my kind of vision, or the carefree element I had, disappeared instantly when I had my automobile accident in 1975. That kind of ramshackled "I'll take the world now" attitude was completely gone."
Re: Led Zeppelin
I don't know. They were pretty much done being creative by the time he died. Physical Graffiti is a masterpiece, but everything after it was kind of "meh" with the exception of a few incredible songs like Achilles Last Stand.
I actually think Physical was the beginning of the end. Some great songs, but very uneven compared to HOTH. Still, great album, so is Presence. When we approach In Through The Out Door though...ouch. I don't even want to hear Coda.
But I guess 5 mint albums and 2 great ones is all you really need.
Re: Led Zeppelin
tejastech08 wrote:I don't know. They were pretty much done being creative by the time he died. Physical Graffiti is a masterpiece, but everything after it was kind of "meh" with the exception of a few incredible songs like Achilles Last Stand.
I actually think Physical was the beginning of the end. Some great songs, but very uneven compared to HOTH. Still, great album, so is Presence. When we approach In Through The Out Door though...ouch. I don't even want to hear Coda.
But I guess 5 mint albums and 2 great ones is all you really need.
Yeah, Physical is like a low grade UYI. Some monster tracks sprinkled with a ton of filler.
I was never a big fan of Presence.
Only highlight from In Through The Out Door is In The Evening.
Coda is the worst album I have ever heard, and you are talking to someone who owns that early 90's Right Said Fred album. I remember buying Coda in 1990 as it was the only Zep album I either didn't own or never heard. I was shocked by the mediocrity of it.
