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Re: Best album of the 90s elimination- Round 10
I can see why you would have your opinion on STP and the points are valid, but they were pretty damn authentic and were not copying the grunge movement. If we're gonna start labeling Cali based bands as poseurs, throw Pearl Jam into that mix. Vedder was a brain dead, happy go lucky surfer dude until heading to Seattle and meeting Cornell and members of Mother Love Bone during the recording of Temple of the Dog. Then he started wearing flannel and decided to hate the world because doing so suited his needs.
I do agree that stacked up to these other bands left they're nothing to write home about, but labeling them "poseur rock" is a bit unfair. I am one of their fans that think they have a real spotty discography, but they came out of the gates swinging with the release of Core.
Yeah others on this list have impressive discographies as well, but no one has repeatedly put out album after album of amazing material with critical acclaim and great sales figures like Cornell. Patton is a tad avant garde and flies under the radar. Grohl lucked into Nirvana and gets no credit for that. Only person on this list near Cornell would be Slash.
monkey, only Pearl Jam album I like is Ten. Huge drop off in quality after that and I stopped paying attention.
- NY Giants82
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Re: Best album of the 90s elimination- Round 10
NY Giants82 wrote:Rage
you're sticking to your guns
i think they have a couple more rounds left in them thoughfinally stp has a real chance of getting out and i can vote for someone else
Yeah I've never been a Rage fan at all, though I totally dug Audioslave. Other than that, this is a very solid list. I had forgot how many good albums came out in the 90s.
Re: Best album of the 90s elimination- Round 10
I was just never all that impressed with STP, and I thought Weiland was a weak writer, and asshole, YEARS before the Axl thing.
Weiland was my LAST choice for VR, when they were mulling lead singers. Naturally they chose Weiland, and knew my love for VR probably wasn't going to exist from that point forward.
I wanted Billy Idol.
*cue laughter*
Re: Best album of the 90s elimination- Round 10
if you wanna play that game AIC was supposed to be the next 80's metal band following skidrow and gnr....they changed their tune quick from facelift to dirt
True but only to a point. 'Man In The Box' came out pre-grunge explosion, as did it's video. The video is one of the darkest, ugliest, scariest videos and is far from anything Motley Crue, Poison, Warrant or Skid Row were doing. In fact, the movie Singles which they're shown in was actually filmed in like 89 or 90 but was shelved for a year because the studio didn't think it would be a success. AIC is pretty far from "glam metal" in that. If anything, it was along the lines of 'One' and they would have ridden Mettalica's Black albums coattails.
If we're gonna start labeling Cali based bands as poseurs, throw Pearl Jam into that mix. Vedder was a brain dead, happy go lucky surfer dude until heading to Seattle and meeting Cornell and members of Mother Love Bone during the recording of Temple of the Dog. Then he started wearing flannel and decided to hate the world because doing so suited his needs.
Agreed about the flannel I suppose, I'm not going to argue about clothes on here anyway. But musically Vedder didn't copy much off anyone in Seattle. In fact, as the story goes, he was friends with RHCP former drumer Jeremy Irons, who knew of the MLB guys looking for a singer and also drummed for PJ a bit. Stone Gossard & Jeff Ament sent him a badly recorded (basement?) 3 track demo. Vedder wrote some lyrics & sent them back. Those songs became Alive, Once, and Footsteps (which is a spooky good song that shares the same guitar riff as Temple of the Dog's "Times of Trouble"). Also Vedder was only on Hunger Strike & really wasn't involved much in TOD recording. Supposedly Cornell was recording vocals for Hunger, and couldn't nail the parts he wanted. Vedder was in the studio & came in to sing 2nd vocals to help Chris sing his parts, which would later be edited out. They were kept in.
Anyway, it's blatant that Scott was ripping off Vedder. Just look at his facial expressions during the Plush video, then look at the Jeremy video (or Alive or Even Flow) he was totally biting his schtick off Ed.
- Communist China
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Vedder-Weiland is better than Bowie-Weiland, though, I'll give his early 90s persona that.
