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Re: Child Services Strike Again
Saikin wrote:Tommie wrote:They named their kid "ADOLF HITLER".
Maybe its the jew in me, but I find this reason enough.
And your point is? Naming their child that does not mean they are horrible and abusive parents and their children need to be taken away. Unless they had sound proof the children were being abused, they had no right to break up that family.
I'd find it offensive if someone named their child Paris Hilton Campbell, but that doesn't mean the child needs to be taken away just because the person he/she was named after is an awful excuse for a human being.
And i know it's a jump to compare Hitler and Paris, but the same principles apply. There will always be people in this world that hate other groups of people, by all accounts these parents fall in that category, but that doesn't make them unfit parents.
And what's your point? these people with good intentions go into the child welfare business...and they're damned if they do and damned if the don't.
Imagine six years from now when the parents are given this kid a swastika (sp?) tatoo...and you'd be saying...where was child services?
or...six years from now they're perfectly normal...with wonderful social skills and socially stigmatized names...
You all have the benefit of hindsight bias and arm-chair quarterbacking up difficult decisions...I think erring on the side of caution in this case was the way to go...
Six years from now, if they give their child a swastika tattoo i wouldn't blink. The swastika actually has good meaning, but since the Nazi's adopted it, the status of it has become something more demonic than the original meaning. I certainly wouldn't say child services should have been called.
What does it say about the parents state of mind when they name their kid Adolf Hitler? What kind of parenting skills do they have when they are already making the child an outcast?
Speculation and guessing are not sound reasons for breaking up a family.
I'm assuming parents who homeschool their kids and never really introduce them into a social life aren't fit parents either. They as well created an outcast who will find a really hard time fitting in and adapting in a society that he had no idea existed. Could even lead to depression and suicide of the kid. By that logic those parents should be thrown in jail for attempted murder.
Re: Child Services Strike Again
What does it say about the parents state of mind when they name their kid Adolf Hitler? What kind of parenting skills do they have when they are already making the child an outcast?
Could these type of people be trusted to take care of their kind day in day out when they cant even name him correctly?
they could've named him teddy and raised him like a neo-nazi and you wouldn't know it. that would make them really good parents in your eyes?
people that can't get over a name will push this kid down. he's born like every other child and no matter the name, his parents will raise him with the same beliefs. it's not like if they wouldn't name him adolf hitler, he wouldn't be raised as a neo-nazi? i doubt it.
let's just ban the german nation. they started two world wars in 30 years.
let's blame the people that live now for what their grandfathers did. let's blame the white people that came in america and killed millions of indians. let's blame the church for the crusades.
i'm sorry but it's not right to take a kid from his parents based on name only. whatever the name
Re: Child Services Strike Again
Why do you all assume that's the only reason...I believe the original poster admitted that there is probably more to the story...
Those names raise a flag and draw attention to the situation...more had to be occurring for these steps to be taken...no legal government agency would approve such a move based on names alone. I think you're all being naive to think that was the sole reason for the action that was taken.
Re: Child Services Strike Again
i'm sorry but it's not right to take a kid from his parents based on name only. whatever the name
Yeah, as this thread goes on, it needs to be reminded to people that there is NO PROOF that this was the only reason they were taken.
Therefore, again anything is possible. If I were to take an (uneducated) guess, I would guess that the kids were interviewed, and when asked what would happen if they went to school with a black kid, or jewish kid, the kids maybe responded "I'd kill them.." or something along those lines, in that they were being raised neo-nazi. Although, I'm not sure that's legally a crime, to raise your kids that way. It may not be. Who knows though, maybe they spoke of there parents drug use or something. Anythings possible & it's all speculation, as is claiming they were taken because of their name. So no one's theory is any better than anothers.
Re: Child Services Strike Again
Why do you all assume that's the only reason...I believe the original poster admitted that there is probably more to the story...
Those names raise a flag and draw attention to the situation...more had to be occurring for these steps to be taken...no legal government agency would approve such a move based on names alone. I think you're all being naive to think that was the sole reason for the action that was taken.
i assume that's the only reason because i didn't see any other thing declared as to back-up the action of taking the kids away. if they have other motives that they chose not to reveal at this time, then i'm all for it.
