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Re: Child Services Strike Again
Authorities removed Adolf Hilter Campbell and his sisters from their parents' Hunterdon County home, Holland Township police chief David Van Gilson said Tuesday.
New Jersey's Division of Youth and Family Services took the 3-year-old as well as JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell, 1, and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, who turns 1 in April, the chief said.
Van Gilson said he didn't know why the children were taken or who had custody. He said his department received no reports of abuse or negligence.
The children's father, Heath Campbell, reached Tuesday evening at a relative's home, first declined comment and later said the children were not removed.
The Division of Youth and Family Services would not confirm or deny the report.
A spokeswoman said the division doesn't comment on specific families.
The chief said the children were removed last week. He said a township officer was present.
"Whatever children were at the home were taken," the chief said.
A hearing is scheduled for Thursday before Superior Court Judge Peter A. Buschbaum at the Hunterdon County Justice Center, the chief said. He said a hearing on Tuesday was postponed when Campbell indicated he wanted a private attorney.
The hearing is to decide whether the state can temporarily place the children in another home, the chief said. He said township police Sgt. John Harris is scheduled to testify.
The Campbell family gained worldwide attention after a Dec. 14 story in The Express-Times about the children's names and a Warren County supermarket's refusal to write Adolf Hitler on a birthday cake.
Heath Campbell, who's previously said he picked the names to honor German ancestry and because they are unique, has reported receiving threats after the story was published.
Another Campbell family in Holland Township received a death threat intended for Heath Campbell, township police have said. That case remains under investigation.
- Randall Flagg
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Re: Child Services Strike Again
Let's look at this objectively shall we? A person who decides to name their children after Nazi leaders and the Aryan Nation probably isn't too stable. Someone who would willingly subject their children to the criticism and stigma of names like those probably isn't a very productive person. This isn't absolute of course, and these two people could be great parents. All I'm saying is that there is reason to believe that these people might not be the best parents in the world based on their decision making. Based on this strong possibility, don't you think that maybe they're capable of neglect and child endangerment? If this is the case, which I'm not saying it certainly is, there is justification for the state to get involved. Let's wait and see what the state's rationale is before we jump to conclusions about slave states. I'm more Libertarian than anyone here, but society has a vested interest in maknig sure that parents don't abuse their children and thus create future criminals. Abuse is a subjective term at times, but let's wait for all the details before we cry the sky is falling.
Re: Child Services Strike Again
The authorities are supposed to deal in probables now?
Like the chief said, there's been no reports of any kind of abuse, and I'm thinking the reason he went out with this is because he feels the whole thing is fishy.
There are bad, stupid parents all across the board, but unless we're talking sexual or physical abuse there should be no reason for authorities to intervene in any way. We're talking about a family here. People who love each other. There should be some solid evidence to fuck with that. But they just go around snapping kids at will and then won't tell anyone why until later, and even then you're left with less legal rights than the common crack addict and rapist on trial.
Of course there could be actual abuse going on. We don't know all the details here for sure, but I don't know, this just doesn't strike me as a family that needs government supervision:
Yes, my and your version of society have a vested interest in protecting our children, but that does not mean our actual societies are in fact always doing it. There's a lot of Machivellian benefits to having a fucked up populace, which probably explains why they increase in numbers each year.
And I don't need this article to make conclusions about slave states. That's just a fact as far as I'm concerned.
