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- luckylittlelady
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Re: Bodies of 2 girls missing for 16 years found buried in garden
Human remains found in the garden of a house in Kent are those of missing 15-year-old Vicky Hamilton, police say.
The remains of Vicky - last seen in West Lothian in 1991 - were found at the Margate house by police who had been focusing on another missing girl.
Scotsman Peter Tobin, who once lived at the property, was arrested and charged in July over Vicky's disappearance.
Police in England are looking at other murders to determine if there is a link to the discovery of Vicky's remains.
Houses searched
Mr Tobin is currently in custody and is expected to appear before Linlithgow Sheriff Court on Thursday on charges related to the death of Vicky.
Detectives had been looking for missing 18-year-old Dinah McNicol at the Margate house and have said they are continuing to search for any other human remains.
Vicky, who lived in Redding near Falkirk, Stirlingshire, was last seen waiting for a bus in Bathgate on 10 February 1991.
The search for further remains is continuing at the house in Margate
She had been travelling from Livingston to her home and was changing buses when she disappeared.
She was last seen in Bathgate's George Square. Eyewitnesses said she was sitting on a bench eating chips.
Personal items belonging to Vicky, believed to be jewellery and clothing, were also discovered at the house in Kent.
In 1993, Vicky's mother Janette died without knowing what had happened to her daughter.
A review of the case into Vicky's disappearance was launched by Lothian and Borders Police last year.
'Deep search'
Police searched a house in Bathgate where Peter Tobin once lived and in October a house in Southsea, Hampshire, was searched.
Essex Police are continuing their search for Dinah McNicol
Police have said they are still searching the Margate house for the remains of Dinah McNicol, who was from Essex but failed to return after a trip to Hampshire in 1991.
Det Supt Tim Wills, of Essex Police, said: "We came here to search for Dinah McNicol or any physical evidence which might link her disappearance to that house.
"And that's what we will continue to do. I do not intend to leave the house until I'm fully satisfied that there are not any other human remains at that site."
He added that once a ground level search has been completed, a "deep search" would get under way which could take "a number of days".
- luckylittlelady
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Police have resumed their search of a Kent house where the bodies of two teenage girls were discovered.
On Friday, officers found the remains of 18-year-old Dinah McNicol, from Tillingham in Essex, in the garden of the home in Irvine Drive, Margate.
The body of Vicky Hamilton, 15, from Redding near Falkirk, was recovered from the property on Monday. Both women went missing in 1991.
Peter Tobin, 61, has been charged in Scotland with murdering Miss Hamilton.
Forensic archaeologists resumed their search of the address from 0830 GMT on Saturday.
'Floors drilled'
Det Supt Tim Wills, of Essex Police, told waiting reporters there was "no further update at this stage", but he said the post-mortem examination of Miss McNicol's body was complete.
Assistant Chief Constable Peter Lowton of Essex Police has said it is "too early to tell" if any arrests over the death of Miss McNicol are imminent.
Officers have said they are examining potential "hotspots" identified around the property and were likely to begin focusing on the inside of the three-bedroom council house on Saturday.
Concrete floors inside the building are being drilled through and radar is being used to check for any abnormalities in the property which might pinpoint areas to search.
Dinah McNicol
Dinah McNicol's body was found near the patio
Tributes and media scrum
The remains of Miss Hamilton, who went missing from Bathgate in West Lothian, were found in a sandpit in the back garden of the Irvine Drive house.
Mr Tobin, who once lived in the property, was charged with the 15-year-old's murder and appeared at Linlithgow Sheriff Court on Thursday.
The body of Miss McNicol, who was last seen returning from a trip to Hampshire, was discovered close to a patio area.
Detectives have carried out house-to-house inquiries in Irvine Drive and have appealed for any residents who lived in the area at the same time as Peter Tobin to get in touch with them.
The family who lived in the property until Monday have been receiving support from Kent Police family liaison officers.
It is thought a number of other murder cases are being re-examined in the light of the Margate discoveries.
These are believed to include the murder of Jessie Earl, who disappeared from Eastbourne in East Sussex in 1980 and was found dead nine years later, and the deaths of three women killed in Glasgow in the late 1960s by a man dubbed "Bible John".
- luckylittlelady
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Re: Bodies of 2 girls missing for 16 years found buried in garden
They are looking into so many unsolved cases right now, this guy could be hiding a ton of stuff. Thank God things are catching up with him and two families at least can have some kind of answers.
- julia (babydolls)
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this guy has apparently lived in a number of houses around the country. Think he did a few council house swaps and the cops will search at all of them. Like you said LLL, it's good the families get some closure with the 2 discoveries - but chances are there is worse to come... his murder of Angelika Kluk was huge news last year, these poor girl's bodies being found is now leading to speculation that there could be as many as 10 or 18 more bodies in his other houses.
- DoubleTalkingJive
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Interesting. Could be another John Wayne Gacy type of situation where there's a ton of bodies everywhere.
Totally could be like Gacy.
Usually not always does it catch up to people like this LLL and you know that by following cases but in these cases there is sweet justice, late justice but they finally get them.
It was mentioned that the mother of Vicky died in 1993, not knowing. Ofcourse she knew the instant she died that her daughter was dead. [if you believe in some sort of heaven]
- luckylittlelady
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his murder of Angelika Kluk was huge news last year, these poor girl's bodies being found is now leading to speculation that there could be as many as 10 or 18 more bodies in his other houses.
Is it the same guy? She was the one killed by the priest and buried under the church, wasn't she? I was wondering how come they had him already.
- julia (babydolls)
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Tis indeed the self same guy.. he was working at the church in Glasgow. Its just been confirmed that the second body is that of Dinah McNicol (bbc news website)
this from wiki:
In 1993, Tobin attacked two 14-year old girls babysitting his son at his flat in Havant, Hampshire. After holding them at knifepoint and forcing them to drink strong cider and vodka, he sexually assaulted and raped them.[2][3] To avoid arrest, Tobin went on the run and hid in a religious retreat in Warwickshire under a false name, but he was recognised and arrested after appearing on the BBC Crimewatch programme.[4]
In 1994, at Winchester Crown Court, Tobin pleaded guilty, and received a 14 year prison sentence. He was released in 2004, and moved to Paisley, Renfrewshire.[4] In May 2007 he received a further 30-month sentence for breaching the terms of the Violent and Sex Offender Register from this case.[5]
Angelika Kluk murder
In September 2006, Peter Tobin was working as a church handyman at St. Patrick's Roman Catholic Church, Anderston, Glasgow. He had assumed the name "Pat McLaughlin" to avoid detection, as he was still on the Violent and Sex Offender Register, but not compliant with it, following his 1994 convictions for rape and assault.
Angelika Kluk was a 23-year-old Polish student from Skoczow, near Krakow in Poland. She was staying at the chapel house of St Patrick's Church, where she worked as a cleaner to help finance her Scandanavian Studies course at Gdansk University. She was last seen alive in the company of Peter Tobin on 24 September 2006, and is thought to have been attacked by him in the garage attached to St Patrick's chapel house. She was beaten, raped, and stabbed to death, then her body was concealed in an underground chamber beneath the floor near the confessional box in St. Patrick's Church. Forensic evidence suggested that she was still alive when she was placed under the floorboards.[6] Police found her body on 29 September, and Tobin was arrested in London shortly afterwards. He had been admitted to hospital under a false name, and with a fictitious complaint.[7][8][9]
Murder trial
The six-week trial resulted from the evidence gathered under the supervision of Detective Superintendent David Remis of Strathclyde Police and took place at the High Court of Justiciary, Edinburgh, between 23 March and 4 May 2007.[10]
The trial judge was Lord Menzies, the prosecution was led by Advocate Depute Dorothy Bain, and the defence by Donald Findlay QC.[11] Tobin denied raping and murdering Ms Kluk and claimed she had consented to have sex with him.
Tobin was found guilty of raping and murdering Angelika Kluk and was sentenced to life imprisonment, to serve a minimum of 21 years. In sentencing Tobin, Judge Lord Menzies described him as "an evil man".[12]
Further Cases
Two cases are currently under investigation and full details are not available to the public.
Vicky Hamilton disappearance
In June 2007, Tobin's former home in Bathgate, West Lothian, was searched by police in connection with the disappearance of a 15-year old girl, Vicky Hamilton, who was last seen on 10 February 1991 as she waited for a bus home to Redding, near Falkirk. She had been visiting her older sister, Sharon, in Livingston, West Lothian and was waiting to change buses in Bathgate. The last sighting of her was as she ate a bag of chips on a bench in the town centre. Tobin is believed to have left the town a few days after her disappearance.[13]
On 21 July 2007, Lothian and Borders Police released a statement that they had "arrested, cautioned and charged a male in connection with the matter", but did not immediately confirm the identity of the man arrested.[14] The investigation later led to a forensic search of a house in Southsea, Hampshire in early October 2007, where Tobin is believed to have lived shortly after leaving Bathgate.[15]
On 14 November 2007, Lothian and Borders Police confirmed that human remains found in the back garden of 50 Irvine Drive, a house in Margate, Kent, once occupied by Tobin were those of Vicky Hamilton.[16]
Dinah McNicol disappearance
Dinah McNicol from Tillingham, Essex, was last seen alive on 5 August 1991. She was hitchhiking home with a male companion from a music festival at Liphook, Hampshire. He was dropped off at Junction 8 of the M25 near Reigate, and she stayed in the car with the driver. She was never seen again. After her disappearance, regular withdrawals of £250 were made from her building society account at cash points in the UK South Coast counties of Hampshire and Sussex.
On 14 November 2007, human remains were found at 50 Irvine Drive in Margate, Kent,[17] where Tobin lived for nine months from March 1991. The remains were initially thought to be those of Dinah McNicol, but were later identified as those of Vicky Hamilton.
However, the remains of a second body later discovered on 16 November 2007 at the same property have since been provisionally identified as those of Dinah McNicol.[18]
Speculation
There is now speculation that Tobin may have murdered as many as ten women across the UK, with some reports speculating as many as eighteen. [19]
Cases include those of:
the three Bible John murders in the late 1960s in Glasgow.[20]
Jessie Earl, aged 22, from Eastbourne, who was last seen alive on 15 May 1980, and whose skeletal remains were found in bushes at Beachy Head in April 1989.[21]
Patsy Morris, aged 14, from Feltham, found strangled on Hounslow Heath, West London in June 1990.[22]
- luckylittlelady
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Forensic evidence suggested that she was still alive when she was placed under the floorboards.
God, I hope not. Beaten, raped, stabbed then buried alive. That girl's suffering must have been beyond imagination.
- DoubleTalkingJive
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julia (babydolls) wrote:Forensic evidence suggested that she was still alive when she was placed under the floorboards.
God, I hope not. Beaten, raped, stabbed then buried alive. That girl's suffering must have been beyond imagination.
This reminds me of the Jessica Lunsford case she was buried alive with her stuffed animal a few years ago...so sad and disgusting and I can't imagine the last moments of her life. 
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - A 9-year-old girl was raped, bound and buried alive, kneeling and clutching a purple stuffed dolphin, state prosecutors said in documents released Wednesday.
Jessica Lunsford's body was found March 19 buried about 150 yards from her house in Homosassa, about 60 miles north of Tampa.
According to the documents, Jessica was found wearing shorts and a shirt - different from the pink nightgown her family said she was wearing when they reported her missing Feb. 24, The Tampa Tribune said in its online edition late Wednesday.
The body was wrapped in two plastic trash bags knotted at her head and feet in a grave covered by a mound of leaves, the state attorney's office said in the documents.
Jessica died of asphyxiation, according to a coroner's report. A convicted sex offender, John Evander Couey, 46, is charged in her slaying.
