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Axlin16

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Re: War in Syria

Axlin16 wrote:

Fuck you. How dare you make a comment like that.

I pay taxes, and have spent my entire life in America sucking down their bullshit. I have every right.

While you sit on your ass sucking down cheeseburgers

Anybody got any prejudices we want to talk about? I guess this is a fat comment. I’m not fat, and rarely eat cheeseburgers. But when I do... no cheese, no mayo please.

whining about how life has dealt you a bad hand,

Whining? You don’t know me man. I would love to show this comment to anybody that has EVER known me in my entire lifetime, this could not be further from the truth. Most people tell me I beat myself up TOO MUCH in blaming myself for whatever goes bad for me.

I usually am the first guy to take the fall for any of my failures, even when rarely are they induced by me. I’m a man, i’ve taken my licks, and I know how to take them.

I have literally no clue where this comment comes from.

young kids who weren't too craven to go to war with in a remote part of the world just to get through college, signed the dotted line. Some of them didn't come home.

Maybe I just don’t take orders, like you or them. Honest to God, not trying to be a dick, I tested high and was basically begged by several recruiters to go into the military.

I was honest with them... I don’t do orders well, at all. I was abused by certain people in the church at a very young age, and spent many hours at 5, 6 & 7 years old being locked in dark closets for hours on end.

From that point forward I had issues with authority or those who had assumed power. I didn’t even know how or why because I was too young. But it resulted in me being virtually hated by school staff, and having run-ins with the law.

Military wouldn’t have worked for me, even though i’ve got the mind for it... according to all the tests both physical and mental they gave me. Not bragging, just saying.

As for those who didn’t come home, i’m truely sickened by their loss. Probably more than you.

Where the fuck do you get off hoping, actually hoping that Americans die

Out of context entirely. Never said that. I said what it would take is them getting CHECKED. Whether by the force of Russia or Iran or China, or just by you guys actually telling your president to fuck off. America needs a bruised eye. They have become a bully.

If that takes you or them, sorry, get out of it. Either way we’re talking war strategy, and as someone who’s been in a military family my whole life, don’t YOU DARE TELL ME that you guys don’t talk body count and wartime casualties.

That’s what I was doing, so suck those horns right back in buddy. I have every right, and stand by my original statement. I don’t want ANYONE to die. So don’t fucking fight the war, and you won’t have to worry about that.

in a conflict they don't want to fight.

Then don’t. It’s really that simple folks. If every military man, every personel stood up and said “no, not me”, the breaks would be slammed. You think everyone is gonna get punished? No. The President would take notice and realize his orders come from the voters, the people, and not the globalist scum pushing this war.

It's your fucking President that wants to put them over there. The dipshit you voted for.

No it’s YOUR BOSS. The guy YOU take orders from. Not me. When you go over there and fight along side Al-Queda, excuse me “rebels”, it’s gonna be YOUR choice. Has nothing to do with ‘ol Axlin.

I didn’t vote for a war in Syria, no different than you didn’t vote for Obama to be your boss. That ship goes both ways.

So you get to slurp up McDonalds

You seriously need to take a long hard look in the mirror at what you believe in. I don’t ever go to McDonald’s. I’m sure you were just trying to make a point, but you seem to be toeing-the line here on an inherent prejudice of the welfare state, or whatever you perceive to be a lazy American.

You’re not talking to a reality show viewer. You’re talking to someone with real deal knowledge, someone that actually reads books, something that actually works, someone that actually has a brain, someone that actually knows people who were in wars, legendary military fights that you guys sit around and circle jerk to.

I’m way smarter than the average grunt, and that kinda scares me too.

while some 19 year old gets his brains blown out because our dipshit President and list of cohorts sent him over there to not appear weak.

Appear weak? Do you actually buy that? Dude, it’s about the fact Assad won’t play ball with “the bigger picture”. Kissenger scoped this shit out over a decade ago, way before Obama. Obama is just taking his orders from the globalists that want that oil and natural gas over there.

You aren't out a fucking dime.

Awesome. That’s the one good thing out of all of this.

But I could lose two good cousins, two great friends, and a fiancee of a friend for fucking nothing. And that does kinda bother me.

I've heard your sob stories. You aren't paying shit.

What the fuck are you talking about? I pay every day. Taxes, food, gas, school shit, loan payments.

What the fuck are you on homeboy?

Your life won't be changed one god damn bit if 50000 American boys and girls get taken out.

No it actually will. I mourn them more than anyone, so much to the point that I get depressed and demoralized because of their deaths for nothing. I never forget. It sucks the energy out of my soul these illegal wars.

Again, you took me entirely out of context. Military strategy would suggest that a big loss could change our attitude. That’s ALL I ever said. So don’t put words in my mouth.

You'll still hop on the internet and bloviate about how you've got all the worlds problems figured out yet you can't even fix your own fucking life.

My life is fine. Again – huh?

I’m doing great, best shape of my life, gash is always a problem, but I can’t complain, i’m kicking ass, other than illegal wars, corruption, murder, insurance fraud, you know... Monday at the office for the U.S.

You want to change something, don't vote for a fucking community organizer with a nice smile. Don't vote for politicians who were too fucking scared or too "busy" with their lives to do something for their country rather than their own personal well being.

This I agree and applaud. Absolutely agree.

This is seriously the most disgusting thing I have ever read on these forums. I don't give a fuck if 100 people down vote me or I get banned.

Seriously? You don’t remember the "Gay" thread?

Oh baby

But you need to pull your head out of your ass and realize you're part of the problem.

No i’m apart of the solution, because i’m awake.

Wanna join?

You vote assholes in, then get disgusted at the mess you helped make,

Like I make the call on Syria. Whatev’s

and hope that others die

Complete and total lie. Never said any such thing. I hope nobody dies. That’s kind of what anti-war is.

Jeezus....

so that you can boast on the fucking internet that you were right.

I don’t have to. History has been very very good to me.

Vindicated on Axl. Check
Vindicated on Azoff. Check
Vindicated on Syria. Oh, fucking check.

Get a fucking life.

I have one. It’s okay, but at least i’m in the best mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual state i’ve ever been. Turned the TV the fuck off. Best thing ever. That’s what’s important.

I don't support action in Syria.

But I bet you’ll go. Why?

So it’s you that are apart of the problem. Because when you pull that trigger... YOU will be pulling that trigger. Not me, not Obama, not Congress, you.
Seems pretty supportive to me.

I didn't support it in Iraq and Afghanistan either. Maybe that was selfish because I knew I'd have to be the one dodging bullets while people like you got to drink a cheap ass beer and wave the American flag from the comfort of your living room. But at least Bush got congress to authorize his wars. Obama has done nothing of the sort and it doesn't look like he will.

There’s so much wrong with this part.

1)  First off, I don’t drink beer all that much.
2) Secondly you not supporting a war because of dodging bullets... why the fuck did you sign up to be a trained gunslinger?
3) The American flag... not a chance. Not until it represents something I represent.
4) Bush getting Congress to authorize? With what? Bullshit intel? Lies? Deception? All of the things Obama is doing right now. Anybody looking back on the past a little rosy?

You want to wish harm on someone.

Never said anything of the sort. Again, a total misrepresentation of my original post.

Why don't you wish it on the millions of pieces of shit who infest our great country by being nothing but fucking parasites who can only find solace in the eyes of greedy politicians who want their votes or other losers who couldn't figure out that success is 99% of the time given to people who work hard and restrain their actions. If you have 3 fucking kids and can't afford rent, it's not society or the government who fucked you. It's your own inability to not blow your load in some chick when you're not valuable enough to have a worthy skillset. If you're drowning in debt because you went to some jerkoff college and majored in 12th century fecal art, it's your fault for being a fucking moron and not applying yourself. Very few people are actually victims of outside circumstances. Most are victims of their own stupidity. And the very few who are victims and deserve help are lost in the horde of the lazy, weak and stupid.
I'm so god damn tired of these internet intellectuals who haven't stepped outside their own house in 5 years, yet are experts in foreign policy and countries they didn't know existed until the Media dropped its name and they hopped on Wikipedia to get their 30 seconds of expert material.

Oh God how I completely agree with this part. *stands and applauds*

This part is spot on. I could not agree more. That’s why I work hard, question everything, read history, and try to be as smart about it as I possibly can. Fuck the accepted reality.

I used to like and respect you Axlin'. But now you've become lost in your own desperation and self perceived inadequacies. What you said was despicable and you should really think about what that means.

Again, you don’t know me or who I am. I have utterly no clue where any of this comes from. Just because I happen to believe in some socialist things (just remember, you’re entire military structure is based on Adolf’s... THE Nationalist/Socialist), does not mean i’m a welfare sucker.

So for future reference...

I, nor anyone in my family have EVER received Food Stamps
I, nor anyone in my family have EVER received Government Housing Assistance
I, nor anyone in my family have EVER received Income Tax Pardon’s because of hardship
I, nor anyone in my family have EVER been on Unemployment
I, nor anyone in my family have EVER filed for bankruptcy
I, nor anyone in my family have EVER asked for a handout

I however have taken Financial Aid for college, while dwarfing it in borrowing Loans (you know the Republican’s wet dream). Other than that I worked hard at school, on the family farm, take care of my sick mother... I just live old school. Real cowboy stuff. I gave up on trying to get into the work force, so I became my own boss. If I would’ve done this 150 years ago in this country I would’ve been held up as “The American Dream”.

Axlin16

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Re: War in Syria

Axlin16 wrote:

No, what you said was horrible.

Or honest. Depends on which side of the lie you’re on.

You wished the death on real patriots, the people who actually risk something for the cause

I didn’t wish death on any American employees. I gave a wartime example to how America being the world’s bully could be changed. You chose to fictitiously place some sort of words in my mouth about wishing American employees dead.

And yes, you’re resources. You know that right? They would replace you with robots if they could.

(the Constitution) they believe in.

Then why do the new guys violate it constantly?

Gotta love those old WWII boys. They get it.

You don't do any of that.

I speak out publicly all the time with constant fear of public ridicule, harrassment from the police state, or even death by the government.

So umm...

You sit from the comfort of your home and post nonsense on the internet and consider yourself a patriot. What a low fucking bar to set for such a really powerful and important term

Kind of like the guys in the barracks on the internet, and playing XBOX, and drinking Mtn Dew with Guns... as a matter of fact it’s not that far removed from what i’m doing “alledgedly”.

.

These Americans who are patriots and risk their lives for their beliefs put trust that the President, Congress and American people won't take advantage of their service and send them to risk their life in unneeded situations.

These employees who are duped constantly by poor treatment, lied to, misled, and continue to serve. I feel honestly horrible for them.

My family’s entire plantation was stolen from them by the U.S. government during WWII and promised to be returned (it never was), and yet my grandfather served anyways. Needless to say his horrible treatment by the VA as well as "Indian-like" theft of his land was a lasting impression.

Don’t sit there and tell me this government today and this enemy of today is the same one of yesteryear, because you know that war has been an industry for years.

You as an American citizen voted for a man who the real patriots trust, who just might send them 9000 miles away to get shot at. You can't call yourself a patriot when you don't risk or sacrifice anything. It's one of those terms you get when you actually do something, just not bitch to your friends or anyone else who will lend you their ear.

Says you.

Just remember there’s a thin-line between “patriot” and “terrorist”.

Don’t believe me? Your brothers and sisters have been targeted for years by the NSA and the police for being “patriots”, something they earned that turned them into a “terrorist” because they happened to be Gun loving, constitutionalists (and God bless ‘em for it)

I didn't claim to have defended your freedom.

Tbh, that was a knee-jerk reaction post because I didn’t have time to go through your whole post during the week. I kind of have a life, and work to do.

I swore an Oath to the US Constitution

That’s been bastardized and mis-used to do the bidding of the globalists and the Foreign bankers that own our Fed. Surely you must see that...

and served in the US Army. Where I was ordered to go wasn't my decision. My only responsibility was to lead to the best of my ability, America's finest in a conflict. Anything outside of that wasn't in my scope to argue at that juncture. The Supreme Court never ruled Iraq/Afghanistan or Bush/Obama's orders Unconstitutional, so I didn't betray my oath. Never at one point did I follow the orders or needs of some corporation. Well I guess I listened to KBR tell me where I could go to get warm food since they had the contract to serve meals in that theatre of operations.

Fair enough. You’re a good order taker. I’m not. You take your orders, and i’ll do the best to question whether it should happen. We the people. All the best to the both of us.

But are you gonna uphold that Constitution when suddenly the enemy threat is “domestic” and in a tie ? I sure hope so...

So you got me Axlin'. I followed the corporate masterminds so I could eat 3x a day. What the fuck was I thinking.:rolleyes:

You gotta admit you took a hypocritical approach to attack me, loaded with non-truths.

I had no choice but to expose it. You made me look horrible with slander, of things I don’t believe, when I simply made a wartime statement on strategy.

I don’t wish death on anyone in this conflict, other than letting Syria work out Syria. I want no American, or Russian deaths. I want NO WAR.

If you hate this country and its government so much, why don't you leave?

Working on it as we speak. Never in my lifetime did I ever think I would consider renouncing my citizenship, but I do now. Gotta get things in order as we all do (family does come first, as I completely understand on your part with military service), but barring those unforseen family obligations, I look forward to it. I would prefer changing my homeland though. The system is too corrupt and the people too stupid (for the exact reasons you stated) to do that now.

And if you're going to claim that you're a patriot fighting to restore America to its former glory (something you never saw nor were part of, because you can't tell me the last time America was great and have 10 people agree with you) strap the fuck up and fight your war. Be a fucking man, don't be a coward because you'll be shot right away. Man the fuck up.

It’s definitely in the works. Arming should be a priority of every American right now to protect themselves from this government, as the government themselves is currently arming to protect themselves from the coming insurrection.

As to what will be that insurrection, it could be a variety of things. The current future of America is far more dangerous than anyone realizes.

And as for being shot... i’ve been shot at before, and i’m still here.

I'm a lot of things. I've lied, cheated and been an asshole countless times throughout my life.

You get the patriot card. I get the moral card. We’re probably pretty similar guys.

But a coward isn't one of them. I'm not here to measure dicks, but I've seen and done things that no rational person would call the acts of a coward.

Yet you run me down with fraudulent statements, and that’s not measuring dicks?

I ‘m not a coward, including having eyewitnesses to it, as well as you.

Again the coward statement was a knee-jerk reaction. Although I question anyone who takes orders from someone else, and rarely consider them a leader. Just sayin’

Your life sucks

Again, what the fuck are you talking about? I feel great! Life is good, could always be better. Not gonna over-state it.

because you find it more productive to believe that you somehow see something that 99% of the world doesn't.

I KNOW I see something 99% of the world doesn't. I don’t know how spiritual you are, but if you saw the stuff i’ve seen, you would never fight or believe in anything we believe in this consciousness again.

If only people would stop for a moment, they could bask in all your glory and find truth.

Not really. You have to want truth. And truth is very dangerous. Seek the truth and the truth shall set you free.

BOY THAT DIDN’T MEAN WHAT I THOUGHT IT DID!

There is A-LOT of baggage to full-on, God-level truth. It wears you down, it’s destructive, and it’s not for a common man. I can still struggle with it.

I don’t recommend it for everyone, and it takes years of work to get there.

But yes, I think if people were to slow down, turn the TV off, find out what the universe is really about... no there would be no need for blood money wars anymore. They don’t want you to do that. They live too good a life killing your friends for no reason, and keeping all of us their resource, commerce slaves.

You keep down that path and your life is going to keep on sucking.

Again, huh?

My life is great, never been better. It’s all downhill from here. All about giving. I’m almost complete.

Being angry and an outcast isn't making yours or anyone else's life better.

I’m angry for all the right reasons. I’m angry at the people who killed your friends for no reason. Not Al-Queda, but the real people that killed your friends for no reason. And they will pay, I can guarantee you that. Maybe not today, or tomorrow, but they will pay.

That thrills me to know that definitively. It couldn’t make me happier. And I will continue to seek these people out.

If i’m an outcast, it’s only to those waste of time zombies who are un-savable. For the same reasons you stated. They believe TMZ and the Kardashians are “real world events”.

Cut the shit, grab your balls and make the changes YOU need to make to find success and happiness.

I did, or do-did’ed or something.

Again not sure where this is coming from. I'm in the best shape of my life. Full peak. Happiness is honestly a relative term, but on what I consider success... i’m nearly done. It’s a great feeling.

If you're waiting for someone else to form Lee's Army again so you can jump aboard and pin General stars on your shoulders, you're going to be waiting a long time.

I don’t want to be a General (as much as i’m pushed to). I don’t want that kind of leadership, I just want it changed. For you, me, yours, everyone. I just want it fixed. I don’t want to rule people. I don’t want to order people. I want to show them THEY DON’T HAVE TO HAVE THAT.

But that’s fighting Human Psychology. I’ve accepted people just don’t work that way. But what I don’t accept is that people don’t understand they have been ‘fixed’ that way.

That I do hope to help, if I can. To help them understand “the fix” is in, and how to rectify it.