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killingvector
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AC DC's people are great businessmen. Always have been.

In that article Brett linked, this caught my eye:



One interview we missed earlier in the week was Zane Lowe talking with Angus and Brian recently on BBC1. I highly recommend you give it a listen because, for once, the disc jockey doesn't try to make himself the star of the chat and he actually asks some intelligent questions of the guys. Just a note, the interview starts at approximately the 1 hour and 7 minute mark into the 2-hour broadcast and you must have Real Player installed to hear it.


It would have been nice to hear Axl talk about the state of the world too.

killingvector
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Acquiesce wrote:
killingvector wrote:
Brett wrote:

I would have to make an educated guess that Black Ice would sell as well worldwide as GNR's new album. AC/DC is pretty damn international.

GnR is every bit as international as AC DC; their big advantage here in the states was market shrewdness.

It's not even marketing shrewdness. It's marketing common sense. Release a classic sounding single + do a video + tour behind it + promo the fuck out of it. Nothing earth shattering there, but apparently that's over Axl's head.

I agree 100%. There is some undercurrent we are not privy to; Axl is unhappy, the band is breaking up, a reunion is in talks, Axl is pulling away from UMG.....

I fully expect a shake up to occur at some level in the near term.

Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:
killingvector wrote:
Acquiesce wrote:
killingvector wrote:

GnR is every bit as international as AC DC; their big advantage here in the states was market shrewdness.

It's not even marketing shrewdness. It's marketing common sense. Release a classic sounding single + do a video + tour behind it + promo the fuck out of it. Nothing earth shattering there, but apparently that's over Axl's head.

I agree 100%. There is some undercurrent we are not privy to; Axl is unhappy, the band is breaking up, a reunion is in talks, Axl is pulling away from UMG.....

I fully expect a shake up to occur at some level in the near term.

I concur. I just hope it's in a positive direction. Not some jive ass bullshit, where we get pissed on our leg and told it's rain for 5,000th time.


I am fully expecting the worst, as in...

1) The final album was not Axl's intended mix
2) Azoff is FIRED, and he fucked it up
3) Universal fucked it up
4) GN'R are going to SUE Best Buy


I just hope there's some end to the trainwreck, and it doesn't get worse. But after the Dr. Pepper thing... i'm expecting it to.

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Axlin08 wrote:

I am fully expecting the worst, as in...

1) The final album was not Axl's intended mix
2) Azoff is FIRED, and he fucked it up
3) Universal fucked it up
4) GN'R are going to SUE Best Buy


I just hope there's some end to the trainwreck, and it doesn't get worse. But after the Dr. Pepper thing... i'm expecting it to.

I really think the album was the final mix because if it wasn't Axl would have said something about it,and if he wasn't satisfied with the mix of the album I am sure he will start bitching about it soon.

Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:

It's just been such a scapegoat for them in the past, I wouldn't put it past them.


Problem that they don't understand, is nothing of any of the mixes, whether it be the CD studio album, the Oh My God release, all of the leaked demos over the 2000's...

Nothing has been drastically changed enough, to make or break ANY of these songs. Only CD has seen significant changes imo. For the most part, many people prefer Street of Dreams, Madagascar, & Riad from the 2001-02 shows, WAY over the studio versions.

Bright Eyes 2005
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ACDC's single, Rock n' Roll Train, is as cliche as it gets--it worked for them this time commercially.  A few years back, their just as cliche album did not have huge #'s.  Wal-Mart's distribution chain helped them move product--imho, world wide.  Still, sales are over-rated--many of the albums I cherish never caught on commercially, and likely never will.

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nugdafied wrote:
war wrote:

naive? i would say the same about the opposite

america is a small part of the world.

You obviously just don't get it. For any band to tour abroad costs them way more money. You think GNR would make the same amount of money selling out a US west coast tour as they would selling out the same number of shows in 10 different European countries? You think the overhead is even close to being the same for that? Or the taxes are the same, or the currencies, or the ease of travel?

Aren't you the guy that also was saying GNR is probably waiting for the intial sales to subside before they start promoting their album? I take it business is not your calling.:haha:

Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:

I also have to reinterate the fact that GN'R, are a band that has sold in upwards of 40 million albums in the U.S. alone.

When a massive market basically says "fuck off" through album sales, it's not a strong calling to know from a record company, the band, and promoters, that an American product is going to have to tour fucking Switzerland in order to get to their fanbase. It's a huge disappointment.

It'd be like AC/DC having tour Europe, because they can't sell shit in Australia no more.

Mikkamakka
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Mikkamakka wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:

GN'R need to aim promotion at something that's NOT a sinking ship.


An American band whose sold what? 45+ million in the U.S. alone, is going to suddenly start touring Hungary, where their strengths are?


This sounds cliche, but....


Axl... call Slash.

I'd be happy with a few shows in Hungary 9:beer::laugh:

RussTCB
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