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Re: McCain guarantees victory
I never claimed to like the Patriot Act - what I said was if my 2 choices are my money going towards safety or giving my money to a lazy ass, I'll take safety. If the act was good enough for Bush, it's good enough for Obama. Now if you want to say we don't need the act anymore, that's fine.
My wife has been a dem for as long as I've known her and is not only voting McCain, she's also voting for every rep running for congress in our area. Not everybody loves Obama.
- Gunslinger
- Rep: 88
Re: McCain guarantees victory
Nice post Randall, problem is, it's really a radical neo-Con opinion, not rooted in any kind of realism.
I'll be voting for Obama tomorrow, and not be scared doing it.
If anything happens to this great country, we call the U.S.A. If we go socialist, we go marxist, we basically become the U.S.S.A.
Blame can be placed at the doorstep of one group of people - corporate America. They've stolen from the poor for years to make themselves richer (they earned, that's a fuckin' laugh), and elitist Republicans who continue to spew absolute nonsense about "trickle down economics" are Reagan Republicans who are a dying breed, that don't quite understand they're over. The Republicans are NOT responsible for this, BUT because they hitched their wagon to the "free market" drum a long time ago, they will be dragged down and drowned with the banks.
Now you might be able to convince me, how i'm wrong. I'm willing to listen. But the average American isn't. They look at gas, they look at milk, they look at their retirement in danger, and they blame one thing - an un-supervised free market. Out of control capitalism is the reason I can't afford my next payment n' such.
Now I could find a few things wrong with that statement. But that's how they see it. Tomorrow, Obama is going to be elected the next president of the United States, and the reason that's going to happen is people are tired and fed up. Is Obama the answer? I don't know. But Americans blindly accepting this socialization with "open arms" is not their fault. It's not the government's fault. It's wall street's fault. Period. That's how they see it, that's how they are going to see it, because they don't know the in's and out's of it all. They just know what they see, and most aren't going to want to look further into it, because it might mean they have to get off their fat ass and do something about it. No, we couldn't have that happen, could we?
To have the attitude you have to out of work peoples, is amazingly ignorant. Unemployment only registers those who are... on unemployment. There's countless people I know who are unemployed, can't get work, not registered with the unemployment office, and haven't filed a tax return in years. Do they count? Or are they just tax-beating bums that need to get a job? (just to let you know, if you don't make anything, you don't have to file)
The numbers you see are only the numbers they want you to see.
But regardless, at this point, i'm like alot of Americans. I don't give a fuck anymore. Let's go socialist. Let's go communist. 1984, blah blah blah, i've heard it over and over.
Capitalism is a roting, maggot-riddled corpse.
This post is scary. If this is your TRUE sentiment and you have the arrogance to call someone else "ignorant" then you are a sad case. "I don't give a fuck anymore"...then why are you here? Another vote for Obama and such a worthy one at that.
- Gunslinger
- Rep: 88
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: McCain guarantees victory
I never claimed to like the Patriot Act - what I said was if my 2 choices are my money going towards safety or giving my money to a lazy ass, I'll take safety. If the act was good enough for Bush, it's good enough for Obama. Now if you want to say we don't need the act anymore, that's fine.
Here are some numbers to put it in perspective:
How many dies of heart disease in America each year? 450.000.
How much is spent on preventing it each year? 3 billion dollars.
How many dies of terrorism in America each year (avg.)? 68
How much is spent on preventing that? 161 billion dollars.
So you want to talk about security and waste of your money, see for yourself. They don't care about your security, and they sure as hell don't care about your money. It's all about control, and we're paying for it!
Re: McCain guarantees victory
But regardless, at this point, i'm like alot of Americans. I don't give a fuck anymore. Let's go socialist. Let's go communist. 1984, blah blah blah, i've heard it over and over.
Exactly what is wrong with my peers as the youth of America.
Re: McCain guarantees victory
buzzsaw wrote:I never claimed to like the Patriot Act - what I said was if my 2 choices are my money going towards safety or giving my money to a lazy ass, I'll take safety. If the act was good enough for Bush, it's good enough for Obama. Now if you want to say we don't need the act anymore, that's fine.
Here are some numbers to put it in perspective:
How many dies of heart disease in America each year? 450.000.
How much is spent on preventing it each year? 3 billion dollars.
How many dies of terrorism in America each year (avg.)? 68
How much is spent on preventing that? 161 billion dollars.
So you want to talk about security and waste of your money, see for yourself. They don't care about your security, and they sure as hell don't care about your money. It's all about control, and we're paying for it!
Do you want me to pick one equally rediculous point to make that supports my side, because I can. You're fooling yourself if you think it is limited to 9/11 or terrorist events that have actually happened.
Re: McCain guarantees victory
First of all, you guys are WAY spinning my point out of context.
The "I don't give a fuck anymore" comment was meant towards the way the country was being run even back in Clinton's administration. Not towards "I'm throwing my vote away" like it's been skewed.
That's not what I said.
I do care BLS, but just because I DON'T AGREE with you, doesn't mean I don't care. It also doesn't mean you are right either.
We'll see.
Re: McCain guarantees victory
That not what I was saying. Our younger generation doesn't seem to care about what people in DC want to do to our constitution and what they have done to foundations of this country.. It wasn't a personal attack more towards that kind of attitude. You voted and you have your beliefs and I respect that.
Well Obama won and he has the house and senate. Going to be an interesting 4 years.
