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polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

Re: USA vs. US

polluxlm wrote:

Both systems concurrently exist today. However, the corporate system has been gaining predominance in the last 70 years. Many Sovereigns (We the people) have contracted with the corporate system unknowingly, unintentionally, and or without full disclosure.

Original Description

union of the several states
the states united
united states in Congress assembled
The united states of America
The United States of America
The United States
(defined as the original or organic)

Corporate Description

the UNITED STATES
the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
(all capital letters, a corporation, fiction of law)
the United States of America
the United States
(defined as the corporate US),

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a "Republic"
having its beginning in 1776

a " Corporation" Created (Incorporated) by (Presidential) Legislative Act in 1871, Forty-first Congress, Session III, Chapter 62, page 419
To incorporate means to become
a part of something bigger

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having a de jure form of government
Of right; legitimate; lawful; by right and just title; "by law"
--Black's Law Dictionary sixth edition

a de facto government
In fact, in deed, actually; a state of affairs; but is illegal or illegitimate; "by equity" and not "by law"; is not constitutional. Thus an officer, king. or government de facto is in actual possession, but by usurpation, or without lawful title.
--Black's Law Dictionary sixth edition

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Started with Declaration of Independence in 1776, Articles of Confederation in 1778, and the Constitution in 1787

Started with Gettysburg Address in 1864, and the Incorporation of District of Columbia by (Presidential) Legislative Act of February 21, 1871, under the Emergency War Powers Act and the Reconstruction Acts.
Then reorganized June 11, 1878
--16 Stat. 419 Chapter 62

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Philadelphia is the Capitol

The Articles of Confederation
were agreed to by the united states in Congress assembled on November 15, 1777 and were ratified March 1, 1781. From the time of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776, to the time of the Articles of Confederation there was a space of time of sixteen months and eleven days. During this period of time, the several nations, states, countries were sovereign unto themselves as relates to foreign earthly powers.

There was an outstanding debt of 17 million silver Lira from french banks over 21 separate occasions all due on December 1, 1789.

Therefore, a Constitution had to be drafted as a bankruptcy Charter.

"Articles" establish a sovereign nation but all "Constitutions" are bankruptcy charters or compacts.

The Articles of Confederation
are (may) still be in operation.

"He [Patrick Henry] boycotted the Constitutional Convention of 1787 because, as he so eloquently put it, "I smell a rat " and suspected the worst: that the independent colonies that had thrived for over a century were to be herded under one consolidated government, a vast government apparatus founded not on liberty, but on the bureaucratic dreams of monarchists and mercantilists like Alexander Hamilton." 

Certain members of Congress created the District of Columbia from portions of two states; Virginia (Virgin) and Maryland (Mary). Physically united together they are "Virgin Mary ," to form a more perfect union as a new "United States".

All Rule comes from
"District of Columbia"
"Columbia" is a name for "Goddess of Creation, War, and Destruction" more known as the goddess of death and pain. She is a statue on top of the Capitol building called the Statue of Freedom which is crowned with pentacles (pentagrams--stars with five points). She is seen as other statues around Washington D.C. area. She is derived from the imagery of Semiramis, wife of Nimrod, and Queen of Babylon.

US Titles and Codes
call "DC" the "United States"

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The Constitution for The United States of America.

Now known or referred to as
the organic constitution.
This Constitution established a central government with limited powers to do the will of the people. Its purpose was to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquillity, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

The Constitution (a bankruptcy compact) designates and limits the powers of the newly established central government and restrict its venue to a district not exceeding 10 miles square and areas purchased for forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings.

The organic Constitution was created in 1787, adopted 1789, and amended 1791

The Constitution of the United States.

The original organic Constitution
was adopted by the corporation as
its "By-laws". The original Thirteenth Amendment was replaced, and other amendments added, some by fraud.

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REPUBLIC

" I pledge allegiance to The United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, One nation under God"

"Republican"
(means "common rights")
form of government

"Government of the people
and by the people"

A republic is a self governing forum wherein a free, sovereign, moral, and enlightened people guarantee to one another and to all minorities the right and obligation to have, retain, and protect each other's God given common Rights to Life, Freedom, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness in their separate capacities as free inhabitants and or as free Sovereign people within a nation, state (nation state), and or a country, all by positively accepting the Oaths as recipients of the oaths of their servants holding public office.

The people created a republican form of government with limitations on their servants.

The people are the government,
not their servants.

"...shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government"
--Constitution, Art. IV Sec 4

At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs Powel anxiously awaited the results, and as Benjamin Franklin emerged, asked him directly: "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" "A republic if you can keep it" responded Franklin.

DEMOCRACY

"Democracy"
(means "Priest rule")

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.
During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage."

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FLAG

Civil Flag
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Intended for peace time usage, denoting civil jurisdiction under the Constitution and common law, has vertical stripes, blue stars on white background--last flown before Civil War.

Military Flag
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Corporate Flag
FLAGwGoldFringe.gif

Some say it is a flag of Admiralty/Maritime type jurisdiction and is not suppose to be used on Land. Others say it's not a flag at all, but fiction.
However, the gold fringe which surrounds the flag gives notice that the American flag has been captured and is now being used by the corporate so-called government to give notice of its jurisdiction.

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Lawful Money

Has substance

Controlled by
Treasury of the united States of America

Lawful Money consist of:

   1. Silver coins* (Silver Specie)
      Silver dollar--standard unit of value containing 90% silver
   2. Gold Coins* containing 90% gold
   3. Spanish milled dollar called the "real." and its fractional parts such as the "medio" (half-real).
   4. Warehouse receipts or certificates redeemable in gold or silver* such as "Silver Certificates" and "Gold Certificates" are not in itself money but is an exchange for a specified amount of lawful money.

Legal Tender

Units of Monetized Debt

Has no substance--Built on credit

Controlled by US Treasury

Legal Tender consists of:

   1. Federal Reserve Notes
   2. Bonds
   3. Other Notes--evidences of debt.
   4. Tokens--clad coinage having no inherent asset value.
   5. "A unit of debt" in a cashless society--Electronic banking.

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Sovereigns
   
Living Souls coming out of mothers womb onto the land of a state of the union are "Sovereign", "Freemen", and "Freeborn" unless that right is given up knowingly, intentionally, and voluntarily upon full disclosure.

Amendment X
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, ...are reserved to ...the people."

The people are Sovereign

"...at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects... with none to govern but themselves; the citizens of America are equal as fellow citizens, and as joint tenants in the sovereignty."
--Chisholm v. Georgia (US) 2 Dall 419, 454, 1 L Ed 440, 455 @Dall 1793 pp471-472

Citizens

US citizens (Chattel Property) are belligerents in the field and are "subject to its jurisdiction" (Washington DC)

U.S. citizens are 14th Amendment citizens implemented by the Civil Rights Act of 1866 originally established for the newly freed slaves.

Today, almost all mothers, black or white, unknowingly inform on their own babies. Take a look at the so-called "Birth Certificate" CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH where the mother signs and you will see the title of the box stating in small print:
"MOTHER OR OTHER INFORMANT".

The word "OTHER" makes the mother "an informant." By signing the "Birth Certificate" as an informer, she contracts with the government putting her child and her child's future labor as collateral for the national debt (servitude--slavery). The father or mother can rescind the contract within three business days.

Since the Birth Certificate neither lists the father as the husband nor lists the wife's acceptance of the father's surname as her own but has the mothers maiden name instead, the baby is considered a BASTARD. Bastards are therefore under the care and control of the Priest Rule (democracy) and can be taken from the mother at any time.

The hospitals receive a fairly large monetary benefit ($3,000, more or less, per child) from the corporate government for having Birth Certificates filled out and signed. 

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Judicial Name
(Appellation)

Flesh and blood name
of a living soul


John James, Christianson

Note upper and lower case
(Proper by Rules of English Grammar)


Christian Appellation: John James   (Sole property)
Family Name: Christianson   (Common property)

"Prisoner of war" name
Fictitious " nom de guerre " name
for a non-living entity:
also referred to as the "Strawman"
and/or "Transmitting Utility"

JOHN DOE
Note: name is in all capital letters
a.k.a. all CAPS

John C. Doe
Note: middle initial
(No name at all--A fiction)

First Name: JOHN
Middle Initial: C.
Last Name: DOE

A fictional persona
being surety for the debt
as a fiction in commerce

Look at the name on Drivers Licenses, Social Security cards, Credit Cards, Deeds, Bank Accounts, etc.

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Freeborn

Freeman
Freeholder
Sovereign
"We the people..."

Bond Servant
To cover the debt in 1933 and future debt, the corporate government determined and established the value of the future labor of each individual in its jurisdiction to be $630,000. A bond of $630,000 is set on each Certificate of Live Birth. The certificates are bundled together into sets and then placed as securities on the open market. These certificates are then purchased by the Federal Reserve and/or foreign bankers. The purchaser is the "holder" of "Title." This process made each and every person in this jurisdiction a bond servant.

You can ask a broker to check your SSN on the exchange and you'll see the value of your stock.

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Unalienable Rights
Rights from God

Inalienable
Rights from the corporate government

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Judicial Branch of government established by Article III of the Constitution
   
Separate from Executive and Legislative branches of government

Judicial venue

Ministerial court system
To serve the people--"Servant"

The 7th Amendment guarantees a trial by jury according to the rules of the common law when the value in controversy exceeds Twenty dollars [in silver specie; not FRN's]

Common Law
(Law not written)

Common Law is based on custom and usage and includes the Magna Carta and The great Charter of the Forest

Common Law has two basic requirements:

   1. Do not Offend Anyone
   2. Honor all contracts [/i]

So-called Judicial system and Legislature
are under the President

The Judicial is not separate
although it may appear that way.

Most courts today are Article I or Article II courts.

Federal (feudal) venue

Administrative court system
Responsible to the administration
--"Support"

All legal actions are pursued under
the "color of law"

Color of law means
"appears to be" law, but is not

Civil Law
based on the Roman Civil Law

Covers a vast number of volumes of text that even attorneys can't absorb or comprehend such as:

   1. Regulations
   2. Codes
   3. Rules
   4. Statutes

There are now over 60 million of these so-called laws on the books. Keep in mind "ignorance of the law is no excuse" Everyone must be guilty of something. The more so-called laws, the more revenue generated.

Prior to bankruptcy of 1933 "Public Law"

Now the so-called courts administer "Public Policy" through the "Uniform Commercial Code" (instituted in 1967)

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Lawful  or Unlawful - Legal or Illegal

General Law - Private, internal law

Suit - Action

Accusor - Plaintiff

Accused - Defendant

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"Claim"
other terms used: "true bill," "libel"

   
"Charge"
Charged with...(a negative)
(payment or retribution is the positive)
"an assertion that someone is guilty of a fault or offence"
"(criminal law) a pleading describing some wrong or offense"

"Writ"
Writ of Habeas corpus, Writ of Mandamus
Writ of Error, Writ of Prohibition
Writ of Certiorari

   
"Motion"

Emit writs

Submit documents

"Present"
Present as ones self.

   
"Represent"
derived from re-present.
To present as someone else.
To re-present as the "Ens Legis"
a.k.a. STRAWMAN name
If you are represented, you are a ward of the court and are incompetent or a juvenile.

"Venue"
(A place)
"the county from which the jury are to come, who are to try the issue" --Bouvier's Law Dictionary

   
"Re-venue"
Now often seen as "revenue" which refers to monies collected by changing ones venue to a corporate government venue.

"in-law"
(i.e. "Son-in-law" or a "covenant in law")

Submersed in (true) law.
Dealing with Law itself.

   
"at Law"
"Attorney at law"

Can be at something
but not submersed in it
or a part of it.
On the outside of law, not in it.

"Private" side
   
"Public" side

man, woman, child
"one of the people"

   
"Person"
defined as a corporation, trust, partnership,...(all fictions)

"the people"
mankind

   
"Persons"

Counsel
or "Counsellor in-Law"
(Lawyer)

No license required

No registration required

No Bar card required

Just need to know the Law.

The Law is simple

Do not Offend Anyone

Honor all contracts

And of course, you have to obey "Natures law"
such as "gravity" or "breathe air to live."

   
Attorney
an "Esquire" (British nobility)
a title meaning 'Shield Bearer'

Attorney-at-law
The defense Attorney, the Prosecutor, and the so-called Judge are all attorneys doing business in the corporate administrative courts (tribunals) of the U.S. as agents of the Crown of England

Attorneys swear an oath to uphold the
"BAR ASSOCIATION".

The BAR ASSOCIATION is registered with the INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE as a religious 501(c)(3) organization.

Some people believe that the first letter of B.A.R stands for "British".
(British Accredited Registry).
This could be a myth, although the "bar" term may have originated in London having to do with an obstruction that denies or allows entrance such as "raising the bar" being a bridge or a gate.

The BAR in the U.S. was first organized in Mississippi in 1825.

The "integrated bar" movement, meaning "the condition precedent to the right to practice law," was initiated in the US in 1914 by the American Jurisprudence Society.

More at http://www.gemworld.com/USAvsUS.htm

strat0
 Rep: 13 

Re: USA vs. US

strat0 wrote:

*scratches head*

Von
 Rep: 77 

Re: USA vs. US

Von wrote:

I refer to it as the US (United States). The continent is America. The country's nickname, if you will, is America. What the country is is the United States. Like the United Kingdom.

polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

Re: USA vs. US

polluxlm wrote:

Makes little difference to us what we call it, yes.

The law however...is very particular in these matters.

Von
 Rep: 77 

Re: USA vs. US

Von wrote:

No, I understand that. I thought your post was very interesting.

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