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- tejastech08
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Re: Colin Powell endorses Obama...
What an embarrassment for McCain. Apparently Powell ripped he and Palin a new asshole on Meet The Press for their campaign tactics against Obama (portraying him as a terrorist, etc.).
- Randall Flagg
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Re: Colin Powell endorses Obama...
Polluxlm, I'm very interested in this CFR you reference. I've heard others on the internet reference it as well. If you have a link that outlines what it is believed to be, I'd appreciate it.
Re: Colin Powell endorses Obama...
Colored Federation Republic
I'm kidding, I don't know.
But as far as i'm concerned, this is a K.O. to the McCain campaign. Not only did Powell lambast McCain, but mainly went after his own party. Keep in mind, this is a man that was apart of Reagan, H.W. Bush, and W. Bush's administrations. This man is a world known, long-time high-profile Republican. To back Obama is very significant.
What amazes me is the people that truely believe Barack Obama ISN'T all he's cracked up to be. Worst candidate ever? Worse than Kerry? Worse than Bush? Lesser of two evils. If you don't like the guy that's fine, but worst ever is almost in "I just don't want a negro president" territory.
Re: Colin Powell endorses Obama...
Polluxlm, I'm very interested in this CFR you reference. I've heard others on the internet reference it as well. If you have a link that outlines what it is believed to be, I'd appreciate it.
There are no definitive links that I know of. I've gotten most of my information from a variety of books dealing with those things in general.
These are the basics:
Founded in the early 1920s with Rockefeller and Morgan money. The American counterpart of the British 'Royal Institute On International Affairs', funded and thought up by the Milner/Rhodes group, sometimes referenced as the 'Round Table Groups', although that is a somewhat narrow label.
Officially their purpose is to comment on US foreign policy, making suggestions. But with every Secretary of State since WWII as a member, and in recent years occupying as much as 500 official posts in democratic as well as republican administrations, the accurate thing to say is that they make and shape US foreign policy. A closer look at the policies enacted in this period and the parallell they draw to CFR doctrine and statements further strenghtens that notion.
To make a long story short they are belivers in a 'one world', with basis in the works of Marx, Fabian and Leo Strauss. Well known internationalists that thinks the nation state is obsolete, and that the human race needs a more centralized structure to survive.
The most interesting thing about the organization is that they are supporters of socialism and communism, all the while some of their most prominent members and supporters are what most people would call die hard capitalists.
What I and others like me believe to be their real purpose is to get all the top government people and those likely to be them in the future together on a regular basis as to shape their opinions on how to run the world.
Well known CFR members include:
Henry Kissinger
Zbigniew Breszinski
Allan Dulles
George H.W Bush
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton
Dick Cheney
David Rockefeller
John McCain
Barack Obama
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: Colin Powell endorses Obama...
Is this an open organization or do people speculate on its membership?
Re: Colin Powell endorses Obama...
I don't know about the CFR, but I saw the show. He stated he was basically offended by the Palin pick. Re-enforced the notion she is not qualified and was a bad pick. Advised that the smear campaign has been bad for the country, to suggest Obama 'pals around with terrorists" is ludicrous,as he served on an Education board with him. Would anyone logically think Obama with support terrorists if he becomes President. Also, he interestingly stated Obama is not Muslim, but asked what if he was? he made a point about how he saw a veterans grave of a kid who was 13 when 9/11 happened, and wanted to join the services. He died (in Iraq I believe) and his grave had not a cross, not a jewish star, but he was Muslim. Is it fair to say that kid can die for our country but cannot be President? Does Muslim now mean anti-American?? Interesting points. He was also offended of the consistent emphasis of his middle name.
He basically seemed upset by the campaign and the Republican party & current Pres & VP. He seemed to have alot of regrets with the current administration and felt Obama is the best President for the time we are in. Noting McCains struggles during the economic events we've recently had.
Re: Colin Powell endorses Obama...
Yes and no. It is open in the way that you can check their membership, read minutes of selected meetings and check out various information and policies on their website and affiliated publication, 'Foreign Affairs'.
Most of their members are open about it, and their names will appear on their members list. They do however, by their own admittance, offer to conceal membership in times of need. This has become a more used tactic the last decades, following their 'exposure' in the late 70s. There is also an unspoken rule that 'what is said here stays here'. Notable in the fact that a range of directors of all the major news publications in the country have been members, yet didn't produce more than a grenade wounded handful of articles about them all the way up to the 70s. The fact that you, a reasonably up to date human being knows so little about them further attest to that fact. This is, after all, the playground of some of the most powerful and influental men in the United States.
So I guess you can say they are an officially open organization, but in reality carries a more clandestine nature.
Carter and Bush Sr. lost their elections partly because they were so heavily associated with this organization.
Reagan won the election partly because of his opposition to it. Ironic of course since he ended up with H.W. as VP and CFR members in the hundreds in his subsequent administration.
Obama is not an official member. His wife however is on the Board of Directors on the CFR Chicago branch, and when asked about it, he says they've had meetings and that he likes them, but that he does not know if he's a member. In any case the connection is obviously there, and will be further affirmed when he nominates at least 500 members to his coming administration (my personal prediction).
- tejastech08
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Re: Colin Powell endorses Obama...
Pollux, what does CFR stand for? I Googled it and came up with something called the Council on Foreign Relations. Guess who else is a member? John McCain. And actually, Wikipedia does not list Obama as a current (or historical) member. However, the CFR website has a member profile for Obama. Interestingly, Colin Powell and Tom Brokaw are both listed as members. So if Obama, McCain, and Powell are all members, WTF does being loyal to the CFR have to do with it, Pollux? McCain is also involved in it, so it has nothing to do with that.
