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PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: My Electoral College prediction

PaSnow wrote:

I just watched the Katie Couric inerview tonight. Wow!! That's all I can say. Wow!!


"Those are the bad guys." Bad guys?? What is this, 4th grade?!

"And trade.. we've got to see trade as opportunity not as a uhm competitive... scary thing." Scary??

I now know why McCain wanted to cancel next weeks VP debate. This is going to be embarassing. Here's more:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/25/pal … ealthcare/

Here's my Electoral Map:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls … -1-1-1-1-1

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: My Electoral College prediction

James wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

I just watched the Katie Couric inerview tonight. Wow!! That's all I can say. Wow!!


"Those are the bad guys." Bad guys?? What is this, 4th grade?!

"And trade.. we've got to see trade as opportunity not as a uhm competitive... scary thing." Scary??

I now know why McCain wanted to cancel next weeks VP debate. This is going to be embarassing.

Yeah, this is why I mentioned in a different thread that its time for her to start hitting the campaign trail like a real candidate. These mini interviews she does are really awkward and are not helping at all. We have to know where she stands on all these issues, and if she isn't ready to deal with possibly being the most powerful person in the world at some point in the next four years, let us know now.


She is the future of the party, and its amazing that the potential is being thrown away. If she's having trouble grasping certain issues and having trouble communicating her stance to the media and the people, I wish she would have declined the VP slot now and spent the next four years setting herself up for her own run at the presidency.

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: My Electoral College prediction

PaSnow wrote:

Yeah, it's pretty obvious she just doesn't grasp the issues. Maybe it's a problem with her just not expressing it correctly, but I don't think so. I just think she has no concept of some national issues, and even with the camp cramming sessions on her, they know she isn't getting it at all.

Her fake confidence offends me. I read somewhere about how she says "She's ready to be VP on January 20th" with no hesitation, in such a way you can picture her being told she will become a nuerosurgeon & would respond "I'm ready to do brain surgery on January 20th. I'm ready." Would you honestly trust a loved one with her?

While it ignited the base, it's not attracting independents, and certainly not getting any Democratic votes. It was a long shot, but I can't imagine it will work. Unless McCain somehow gets something going into his favor (A great debate, something in this economic bailout). As for Palin, while she could have had a future in national politics, I think in 4 years people will look back & just laugh. Kinda like Howard Dean & his "Byyaaaaahhhhhh" speech. After 4 years, people only remember you for one thing, her thing will be "You can see Russia from Alaska". It must be tough to turn down the chance to be VP, but someone should have told McCain she's not ready. Although without letting her off the hook she should have known also. Which also offends me that she didn't know that. If I was offered a job with the Eagles, I'd love to get it. If I was offered the Offensive Coordinator position, sadly, I'd have to turn it down.

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: My Electoral College prediction

James wrote:

She'll be remembered mainly for the speech she gave at the convention. Which is the only reason her political career wont be burnt toast if McCain loses. She can live to see another day politically.

The liberal smears didn't stick. Neither did the so called "scandals". If McCain loses or she drops out at the last second, it wasn't a liberal "victory" that caused her decline. She caused it herself, or McCain and his advisers caused it. You cant let a phenomenon build up to a fever pitch and then start censoring it. The country may go decades without seeing a woman candidate connect with the country like that, and it just boggles my mind to see it turn out like this.

What sucks for her is no matter what she does, win or lose, she can never strike lightning again with "Palin power". That was a one time only thing, and if she does have presidential aspirations after this, she's gonna have to take the same route all other politicians take.

Like I mentioned earlier, she should have declined the VP slot if she felt she wasn't ready to deal with everything that comes along with a presidential campaign. No one would have faulted her for saying no.

I'm not talking about experience. She has that, and has more than Obama. She's unable to deal with a wide variety of complex issues, unwilling to go toe to toe with the media, and is not out there pounding the pavement with voters. Had she been ready to do that, McCain would be virtually guaranteed the presidency. Instead, they squander her massive buzz and the race is what it was before she joined the ticket.

bigbri
 Rep: 341 

Re: My Electoral College prediction

bigbri wrote:

Gawd damn!

I just thought you guys were blowing it out of proportion as often happens in these threads, but my lord. She is completely clueless.

I'm going to change my stance again. It is a GREAT idea for McCain to keep her reined in. She does much more damage when she opens her mouth than keeping her sequestered does. At least when she's not talking, we don't know why. When she talks unscripted, we have no doubt that she's woefully unprepared for this.

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: My Electoral College prediction

PaSnow wrote:

Here's an excellent article on the current situation from a conservative republican outlet:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MD … UxZDkwNTE=

Palin Problem
She's out of her league.

By Kathleen Parker

If at one time women were considered heretical for swimming upstream against feminist orthodoxy, they now face condemnation for swimming downstream '” away from Sarah Palin.

To express reservations about her qualifications to be vice president '” and possibly president '” is to risk being labeled anti-woman.

Or, as I am guilty of charging her early critics, supporting only a certain kind of woman.

Some of the passionately feminist critics of Palin who attacked her personally deserved some of the backlash they received. But circumstances have changed since Palin was introduced as just a hockey mom with lipstick '” what a difference a financial crisis makes '” and a more complicated picture has emerged.

As we've seen and heard more from John McCain's running mate, it is increasingly clear that Palin is a problem. Quick study or not, she doesn't know enough about economics and foreign policy to make Americans comfortable with a President Palin should conditions warrant her promotion.

Yes, she recently met and turned several heads of state as the United Nations General Assembly convened in New York. She was gracious, charming and disarming. Men swooned. Pakistan's president wanted to hug her. (Perhaps Osama bin Laden is dying to meet her?)

And, yes, she has common sense, something we value. And she's had executive experience as a mayor and a governor, though of relatively small constituencies (about 6,000 and 680,000, respectively).

Finally, Palin's narrative is fun, inspiring and all-American in that frontier way we seem to admire. When Palin first emerged as John McCain's running mate, I confess I was delighted. She was the antithesis and nemesis of the hirsute, Birkenstock-wearing sisterhood '” a refreshing feminist of a different order who personified the modern successful working mother.

Palin didn't make a mess cracking the glass ceiling. She simply glided through it.

It was fun while it lasted.

Palin's recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League.

No one hates saying that more than I do. Like so many women, I've been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly. I've also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does. My cringe reflex is exhausted.

Palin filibusters. She repeats words, filling space with deadwood. Cut the verbiage and there's not much content there. Here's but one example of many from her interview with Hannity: 'Well, there is a danger in allowing some obsessive partisanship to get into the issue that we're talking about today. And that's something that John McCain, too, his track record, proving that he can work both sides of the aisle, he can surpass the partisanship that must be surpassed to deal with an issue like this.'

When Couric pointed to polls showing that the financial crisis had boosted Obama's numbers, Palin blustered wordily: 'I'm not looking at poll numbers. What I think Americans at the end of the day are going to be able to go back and look at track records and see who's more apt to be talking about solutions and wishing for and hoping for solutions for some opportunity to change, and who's actually done it?'

If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.

If Palin were a man, we'd all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she's a woman '” and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket '” we are reluctant to say what is painfully true.

What to do?

McCain can't repudiate his choice for running mate. He not only risks the wrath of the GOP's unforgiving base, but he invites others to second-guess his executive decision-making ability. Barack Obama faces the same problem with Biden.

Only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first.

Do it for your country.

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: My Electoral College prediction

James wrote:

At this point I agree, and I am a fan of Palin. She wasn't ready for the national spotlight. Her unveiling herself a bit early might have had disastrous consequences for her political career. Hopefully she'll be like Reagan, Nixon,etc. and live on to fight another day and have the presidency in her sights.

It just wasn't her time. It was forced, and that's pretty obvious right now. It would be like Clinton trying to run for president in 1984. Never would have worked.

Axlin16
 Rep: 768 

Re: My Electoral College prediction

Axlin16 wrote:

I agree also. Sarah Palin seems like nice, intelligent woman, that Washington hasn't corrupted at this point.


But she is a TOTAL fish out of water. I kind of feel bad for her in a way, because I know if McCain doesn't lose this election, and she doesn't get to hightail back to Alaska, they are gonna fucking destroy her in Washington, just to see blood

mitchejw
 Rep: 131 

Re: My Electoral College prediction

mitchejw wrote:

OUch...i felt bad for her, i really did. That was painful for me to watch...

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