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James
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Re: McCain suspends campaign, Obama plans to continue

James wrote:

NEW YORK (CNN) -- Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain announced Wednesday that he is suspending his campaign to return to Washington and focus on the "historic" crisis facing the U.S. economy.


Democratic rival Sen. Barack Obama said at a news conference later Wednesday that he and McCain had spoken by phone and had agreed to issue a joint statement about shared principles in the approach to resolving the economic crisis.

But he disagreed with McCain's call for postponing Friday's first presidential debate in Oxford, Mississippi.

"It's my belief that this is exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person will be the next president," Obama said. "It is going to be part of the president's job to deal with more than one thing at once. It's more important than ever to present ourselves to the American people."

Regarding McCain's call to join him in Washington to help participate in the debate over the economic recovery plan, Obama said, "If I can be helpful then I'm prepared to be anywhere, any time ... [i] don't want to infuse Capitol Hill with presidential politics."

Announcing his decision to suspend his campaign, McCain said, "I am calling on the president to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Sen. Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem."

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid issued a statement saying that the presidential debate should go on and that McCain's negotiations should not be a "photo op."

"It would not be helpful at this time to have them come back during these negotiations and risk injecting presidential politics into this process or distract important talks about the future of our nation's economy," the statement said. "We need leadership, not a campaign photo op.

"If there were ever a time for both candidates to hold a debate before the American people about this serious challenge, it is now," he added.

McCain senior adviser Mark Salter said later that the campaign will suspend airing all ads and all campaign events pending Obama's agreement.

Salter also said McCain called President Bush and talked to colleagues in Washington and learned that passage of the bailout plan was next to impossible.

McCain would partake in the debate if they passed an agreement, Salter said.

McCain's campaign also said that he had canceled his appearance on "The Late Show with David Letterman" on Wednesday night.

The announcement came just hours before President Bush was scheduled to address the nation on the troubled state of the U.S. financial system, a problem for which his administration has proposed a $700 billion bailout.

Immediately after the announcement, White House press secretary Dana Perino released this statement: "We welcome Sen. McCain's announcement. We are making progress in negotiations on the financial markets rescue legislation, but we have not finished it yet. Bipartisan support from Sens. McCain and Obama would be helpful in driving to a conclusion."

Obama called McCain early Wednesday morning to ask for a joint statement on the issue, a McCain senior adviser said.

An Obama campaign source confirmed the call and said McCain returned his call six hours later, accepting the concept and suggesting that the two of them return to Washington to join the negotiations. The source says Obama told him that he would do that only if negotiators saw it as useful.

According to the Obama source, soon after they ended the call, McCain announced that he was suspending his campaign and returning to Washington.

The bailout plan has met with a cool reception in two days of hearings on Capitol Hill, where both Democrats and Republicans have expressed skepticism about the proposal drafted by Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson.

"It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the administration's proposal," McCain said. "I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time."

But he added that he believes Congress could forge a consensus on legislation "before the markets open on Monday."

Obama lashed out at the Bush administration and at his opponent Wednesday on the handling of the crisis on Wall Street as well as the $700 billion bailout plan.

Congress and the White House are trying to negotiate the details of what would be the most sweeping economic intervention by the government since the Great Depression. Bush has asked Congress to act quickly on the bailout proposal after news of failing financial institutions and frozen credit markets.

"The clock is ticking on this crisis. We have to act swiftly, but we also have to get it right," Obama said in Dunedin, Florida. "And that means everyone -- Republicans and Democrats, and the White House and Congress -- must work together to come up with a solution that protects American taxpayers and our economy without rewarding those whose greed helped get us into this problem in the first place."

Obama said it's unacceptable to expect the American people to "hand this administration or any administration a $700 billion check with no conditions and no oversight when a lack of oversight in Washington and on Wall Street is exactly what got us into this mess."

He said struggling homeowners must be taken care of in any economic recovery plan -- and that taxpayers should "not be spending one dime to reward the same Wall Street CEOs whose greed and irresponsibility got us into this mess." Read more on both candidates' recovery plans

He also hit McCain for switching from his stance as an advocate for market deregulation to a strong supporter of regulation since the Wall Street crisis became front-page news.

"He's suddenly a hard-charging populist," Obama said. "And that's all well and good, but I sure wish he was talking the same way over a year ago, when I introduced a bill that would've helped stop the multimillion-dollar bonus packages that CEOs grab on their way out the door."

McCain's bombshell comes as a CNN "poll of polls" out of Virginia on Wednesday shows him with the slimmest of leads in a state that traditionally has been a safe bet for Republicans.

The latest polls could be a warning sign for McCain that he still has work to do to lock down certain states where previous GOP nominees had to spend little time or effort doing so.


In the new poll of polls, McCain holds a 1 percentage point lead over Obama (47 percent to 46 percent) in Virginia, while 7 percent remain undecided.

The poll of polls is an average of three recent surveys of the state: MSNBC/Mason-Dixon (September 17-22), ARG (September 17-20) and ABC/The Washington Post (September 18-21). The poll of polls does not have a sampling error.

James
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Re: McCain suspends campaign, Obama plans to continue

James wrote:

McCain continues playing chess while Obama wants to play checkers.

This is probably a political strategy(and a smart one), but this country is headed over the cliff. These guys need to be trying to figure this shit out instead of slinging mud every single day.

I think the debate should go ahead as planned, but a symbolic 7 day suspension while the country attempts to figure out what's going on would be a good idea to me.

I also think both candidates should admit to taking money from these crooks, admit to passing up on prior chances to fix it, and that they're united in the face of this crisis.

bigbri
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bigbri wrote:

I'm not sure if he's playing chess. It just looks like he's stalling as he falls in all the polls.

The debate should go on. Like Obama said, we need to hear from these jokers. Time to start answering some real questions, unscripted.

And, as this goes on, the Palin protection is starting to wear on me. Just yesterday in another thread, I didn't really care. But, damn, she has a good chance of being VP. We need to hear from her. We need to see how she handles herself. I mean, fuck. What are they trying to hide? Or, are they trying to hide anything at all? It gives the impression they have no faith in her to do anything but a rally speech.

Neemo
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Re: McCain suspends campaign, Obama plans to continue

Neemo wrote:

definately seems like a bit of both chess and stalling...one question though...wasnt it McCain who said he didnt know jack shit about economics? so whats he gonna do about the economy by taking a break? Enrole in a community college night course?

Neemo
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Neemo wrote:

its really shocking how short lived public memory is

the issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should.

I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated.

http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=1415

Axlin16
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Re: McCain suspends campaign, Obama plans to continue

Axlin16 wrote:

This will make or break this election imo. It'll either be a brilliant move by McCain or what sinks him.


Also remember that McCain doesn't have NEAR the budget for his campaign that Obama does. That could also be playing a factor.

James
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Re: McCain suspends campaign, Obama plans to continue

James wrote:
bigbri wrote:

And, as this goes on, the Palin protection is starting to wear on me. Just yesterday in another thread, I didn't really care. But, damn, she has a good chance of being VP. We need to hear from her. We need to see how she handles herself. I mean, fuck. What are they trying to hide? Or, are they trying to hide anything at all? It gives the impression they have no faith in her to do anything but a rally speech.

Yeah, the whole "lets hide Palin" thing is definitely getting old. McCain will reach average life expectancy in his first term. She is literally a heartbeat away from the presidency. I know why they did it at the beginning of the Palin craze, but now that its time for the issues to be dealt with, they cant keep hiding her. I honestly don't understand why they are continuing the strategy. If she's that dumb, why pick her? If she's a secret weapon, unleash her.

McCain could have rode this chick's ass into the White House. They fucked it up, and add that with the economic crisis, and her likability numbers are dropping.





As far as McCain and the economy goes, Obama doesn't know shit either. We literally have the two worst candidates in history.



EDIT: Supposedly McCain wants the debate rescheduled for Oct. 2nd(day of VP debate), and wants the VP debate pushed off to "a later date".

Something's going on.

bigbri
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Re: McCain suspends campaign, Obama plans to continue

bigbri wrote:

Nice pickup on the VP debate news. I can't believe he's suggesting that. There's no way Obama agrees. Besides, it's not up to them. It's up to the debate commission, and they already say Friday night isn't being canceled.

You are exactly right. If Palin is the GOP secret weapon, why aren't they using her. And, if the opposite is true, then they fucked up.

I've taken my Obama lumps and stood up when he's fucked up. Biden, for one. But, Biden is looking better to me now.

bigbri
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Re: McCain suspends campaign, Obama plans to continue

bigbri wrote:

Oh, man, I just saw this clip of Palin meeting the Pakistani official this week, and he was hitting on her! Sounds like a SNL script. I can't believe they didn't write it already!

tejastech08
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Re: McCain suspends campaign, Obama plans to continue

tejastech08 wrote:

McCain wants to stall the VP debate. Not surprising, although I think picking a woman as his running mate was a good strategy in terms of dealing with Biden. Biden was always going to tear apart whoever his running mate was in the debate, but by picking a woman, they can play the "he's being too tough on her" card. This forces Biden to be more restrained during the debate, but there is no doubt that Palin is getting a lot of quick schooling on all the major issues. The more time they can give her to prepare, the better (in their eyes). So it's not at all surprising that they would want to stall the VP debate. The economic meltdown gives McCain a valid excuse to postpone the first debate at the top of the ticket, so it's not shocking that he'd use that excuse to buy more time for his running mate. Biden is just about as good of a debater in national politics as we've seen in recent times. A lot of people felt he won all of the Democratic debates that he participated in during this year's campaign.

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