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Re: Wisconsin liberals trying to rig election
Milwaukee's election chief on Wednesday turned 32 more voter registration workers in to the district attorney's office for possible prosecution, saying they tried to submit falsified registration cards.
That brings to 39 the number of registration workers under scrutiny, and the number could grow, Election Commission Executive Director Sue Edman said. An organization warned the commission staff late Wednesday afternoon about some questionable cards in the latest batch collected by its workers, Edman said.
All of the workers targeted for investigation were paid employees of two liberal groups running voter registration drives, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) and the Community Voters Project.
In many cases, the groups have said they caught the fraud and fired the workers before handing the cards over to the commission. The groups also have said the problems represent a small fraction of the tens of thousands of cards collected by hundreds of workers.
But in a presidential election year, the incidents have revived partisan debate over Wisconsin's voter registration rules, and over the question of whether requiring photo identification for voters would prevent fraud or suppress turnout.
Of the 32 ACORN workers referred Wednesday to Assistant District Attorney Bruce Landgraf, Edman said:
'¢ Seventeen apparently filled out voter applications and then signed the cards themselves. That involved two to four cards in each case.
'¢ Twelve submitted cards for individuals who later told ACORN they never filled out an application. That involved one card in each case.
'¢ One submitted a card for a dead voter. That was the second such case; a Voters Project worker previously submitted a card for a deceased voter.
'¢ One was apparently making up driver's license numbers for an unknown number of voters.
'¢ One submitted about a half-dozen applications for already-registered voters.
With Wednesday's action, Edman has now referred 35 ACORN workers to Landgraf. She also has referred one worker from the Voters Project and one whose employer is unknown, and she plans to refer two more from the Voters Project.
But more workers from the Voters Project will come under scrutiny, because the group identified problems with a handful of the 7,500 cards it turned in Wednesday, Edman said.
Mayor Tom Barrett supports Edman's efforts to aggressively investigate and seek prosecution for any vote fraud attempts, the mayor's top aide said.
'Mayor Barrett believes the intentional abuse of Wisconsin voter registration laws is a slap in the face to voters and to all who support increasing voter participation in our democratic elections,' said Patrick Curley, Barrett's chief of staff.
Common Council President Willie Hines Jr. said the kind of violations under scrutiny 'just should never occur. You can't undermine the democratic process for your own self-serving gain.'
Both ACORN and the Community Voters Project were paying their workers by the hour, to comply with a state law that forbids paying them by the number of voters signed up. ACORN has said it did not fire workers for signing up too few voters or offer bonuses for exceeding registration goals, but the Voters Project fired at least one worker for missing a quota.
Fucking pathetic. Shows how confident these liberals really are in their candidate.
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: Wisconsin liberals trying to rig election
It's always the democrats committing voter fraud. People like to bitch about Ohio in 2004 and claim fraud took place there. But the only fraud in Ohio in 2004 occured in Cleveland when two democratic poll workers were changing ballots from Bush to Kerry.
They call Republicans fear mongerers, but it's the Democrats who thrive off of fear and intimidation by running on platforms like global warming, gun-control, social security and abortion (claiming women would die in back allys) just to name a few.
No one is innocent in this, but I see nothing wrong with policies that require residents to have a state issued ID to validate that they are indeed whom they claim to be and are capable to vote. Democrats oppose such legislation because a substantial portion of their voter base is unable to show proof of identity when voting which of course is a huge concern for voter fraud. Obviously some people in that category are unable to legally vote for numerous reasons, so Democrats oppose legislation requiring stricter identification criteria because they thrive off of voter fraud. Then again, when they can't win outright, they follow the law to a T and they just get the opposing guy kicked off the ballot as Obama did.
Re: Wisconsin liberals trying to rig election
Just to add, I moved since the last election and had to re-register.
I did it at college with a non-partisan guy that was encourging young students to register to vote.
I signed the registration, and as soon as it was finished he started giving me the Obama speech, Obama literature, and talking about how he was going to be working for the senator's campaign this fall.
So much for non-partisan.
I didn't turn the guy in, because i'm not like that, but I just thought i'd throw that real life experience out there for this thread. I don't think the Obama campaign is sending guys out there to plant seeds, but I have never once ever seen a situation like this, and it be someone with Republican bias.
Just sayin'
Re: Wisconsin liberals trying to rig election
Just curious, who was the guy that you would have thought to "turn him in"??
Was he a contracted person for the school that was supposed to be non-partisan at the schools request? Otherwise he was probably working for something like moveon.org, where they're not "part of" Obama's campaign.... but basically are.
Re: Wisconsin liberals trying to rig election
He was someone who approached the school, I assume, that's how he presented himself, and of course the school allowed it, as long as he stayed non-partisan. He told me that if they saw him passing out the Obama stuff, which he handed to me like it was some kind of secret rave or some shit, that they'd kick him out of there.
He then proceeded to ask me who I voted for in 2004, which immediately sent up a red flag. When I told him Bush, and I still backed that decision, he acted even more miffed. He then asked me who I liked in this election, and put McCain in my mouth immediately, and I said I liked them both and was more swayed to Obama. That's when he warmed up and suddenly started spilling his guts.
He said he was working for the senator this fall, that they would be setting up a post to try and get him elected in the area. I assumed what he really meant, was that he'd be working for the local sector of Democrats in the actual city, and handing literature and stuff to get people for Obama.
He wasn't actually working personally for Obama, even though he presented it as such.
Now if he was a MoveOn.org guy, I wouldn't be shocked in the least with the way he behaved. The way he talked he wasn't a local, and he said that up front when he seemed dumb founded by me talking about local areas. He also seemed thrown when I started telling him, the Obama guy, MORE stuff about Obama than he seemed to know, especially with the fact Obama (at that time) had recently said he'd be tough on Pakistan & Iran and wouldn't play around, so to speak. The guy acted like I just told him his girlfriend cheated on him. He was a total hippie. One of these young bucks that probably thought "Recreate '68" was just his ticket to being apart of a generation (the boomers) that he was 20 years too late for.
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Ok, yeah if the school wanted him to be non-partisan that's understandable.
There'll never be another '68 without a draft. People have no vested interest in protesting. Back then, people were protesting because the government was telling some of them they HAD to go.
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: Wisconsin liberals trying to rig election
Doesn't Obama want to mandate some form of civil service, whether it be working at the red cross or joining the military?
