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James
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Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support

James wrote:
tejastech08 wrote:

Brzesinski is an asshole, but from my understanding he is not the main foreign policy adviser for Obama. He is one of them, but he's not the top dog.

He isn't likely to be secretary of defense/state or anything of that stature, but he is most certainly a player behind the scenes.


Asshole is just the tip of the iceberg.:haha:

James
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Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support

James wrote:

Another great article....

Obama's falling star is inevitable

The Democrats are in a panic. In a presidential race that is impossible to lose, they are behind.

Sarah Palin is not just a problem for Barack Obama. She is also a symptom of what ails him.

Before Palin, Obama was the ultimate celebrity candidate. Obama's meteoric rise was based not on issues but on narrative, on eloquence, on charisma.

The unease at the Denver convention, the feeling of buyer's remorse, was the Democrats' realization that the arc of Obama's celebrity had peaked '” and had now entered a period of its steepest decline. That Palin could so instantly steal the celebrity spotlight is a reflection of that decline.

It was inevitable. Obama had managed to stay aloft for four full years. But no one can levitate forever.

Five speeches map Obama's trajectory.

Obama burst into celebrityhood with his brilliant and moving 2004 Democratic convention speech (#1). It turned an obscure state senator into a national figure and legitimate presidential candidate.

His next and highest moment (#2) was the night of his Iowa caucus victory when he gave an equally stirring speech of the highest tones that dazzled a national audience just tuning in.

The problem is that Obama began believing in his own magical powers.

Which gave the Obama campaign a cult-like tinge. With every primary and every repetition of the high-flown, self-referential rhetoric, the campaign's insubstantiality became clear. By the time it was repeated yet again on the night of the last primary (#3), the tropes were tired and flat.

To top himself, Obama had to reach. Hence his triumphal declaration that history would note that night, his victory, his ascension, as "the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."

Clang. But Obama heard only the cheers of the invited crowd. Not yet seeing how the pseudo-messianism was wearing thin, he did Berlin (#4) and finally jumped the shark. That grandiloquent proclamation of universalist puffery popped the bubble. The grandiosity had become bizarre.

Finally, the Obama people understood. Which is why the next data point (#5) is so different. Obama's Denver acceptance speech was deliberately pedestrian, State-of-the-Union-ish, programmatic and only briefly lyrical.

The problem, however, was that Obama had announced the Invesco Field setting for the speech during the pre-Berlin flush of hubris. They were stuck with the Greek columns, the circus atmosphere, the rock star fireworks farewell. The incongruity between text and context was apparent. Obama was trying to make himself ordinary '” and serious '” but could hardly remember how.

One star fades, another is born. The next morning McCain picks Sarah Palin, and a new celebrity is launched.

But her job is easier. She only has to remain airborne for seven more weeks.

Charles Krauthammer is a columnist for The Washington Post

http://www.statesmanjournal.com/apps/pb … 30305/1049

Saikin
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Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support

Saikin wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

Obama's main foreign policy adviser is Brzezinski. I seriously urge all Obama followers to research him if you don't know him. He dates back to Carter, and this guy is VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY close to the neocons agenda. His actions and views are in full compliance with Bush Doctrine.

Yeah McCain has a hard on for Iran, but that is less scary than Obama's hard on over NATO expansion. Hell, Brzezinski has advocated Soviet/Russia containment for decades. I read a book in the late 90s about the Iran Hostage Crisis, and this guy made me want to puke. I remember when I first heard about his connections to Obama a year ago, I thought it was either a joke or conspiracy crap. Its actually true. I wonder if McCain's digs at Obama about being the "second Jimmy Carter" have anything to do with that connection.

EDIT: After getting a mini wiki crash course on Brzezinski, he actually dates back long before the Carter administration.

For those who never heard of this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

That's really not good news.  Obama may be a smart man, but he picks the worst people to have around him.

McCain might be a not so smart man, but he picks some good people to be around him.

Which do you choose? I'd say the not so smart man.  17

Saikin
 Rep: 109 

Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support

Saikin wrote:

That is a pretty good article James.

Unfortunately it really shows how the American public is.  Obsessed with celebrities. 

I'd still love it if Obama elaborated on his plans.  Still waiting for that.

If i'm not voting for him, i'm not voting.

tejastech08
 Rep: 194 

Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support

tejastech08 wrote:
Saikin wrote:

That is a pretty good article James.

Unfortunately it really shows how the American public is.  Obsessed with celebrities. 

I'd still love it if Obama elaborated on his plans.  Still waiting for that.

If i'm not voting for him, i'm not voting.

He has elaborated on them. The media won't show you a full speech. They'll show you snippets. He's got a lot of crap at his website too. A lot of it I disagree with. His energy policy is pathetic, but then again so is every politician's in Washington including McCain.

tejastech08
 Rep: 194 

Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support

tejastech08 wrote:
Saikin wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

Obama's main foreign policy adviser is Brzezinski. I seriously urge all Obama followers to research him if you don't know him. He dates back to Carter, and this guy is VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY close to the neocons agenda. His actions and views are in full compliance with Bush Doctrine.

Yeah McCain has a hard on for Iran, but that is less scary than Obama's hard on over NATO expansion. Hell, Brzezinski has advocated Soviet/Russia containment for decades. I read a book in the late 90s about the Iran Hostage Crisis, and this guy made me want to puke. I remember when I first heard about his connections to Obama a year ago, I thought it was either a joke or conspiracy crap. Its actually true. I wonder if McCain's digs at Obama about being the "second Jimmy Carter" have anything to do with that connection.

EDIT: After getting a mini wiki crash course on Brzezinski, he actually dates back long before the Carter administration.

For those who never heard of this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

That's really not good news.  Obama may be a smart man, but he picks the worst people to have around him.

McCain might be a not so smart man, but he picks some good people to be around him.

Which do you choose? I'd say the not so smart man.  17

Who exactly is so good that's surrounding McCain?

Saikin
 Rep: 109 

Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support

Saikin wrote:

McCain has a better energy policy than Obama- that is a pretty scary thought considering Obama is supposed to be all about change.  Obama is basically keeping the same thing we have now, just throwing a bandage and some flowers over it. 

Obama hasn't elaborated on his plans enough.  Ever since he accepted the nomination he's been too busy attacking Palin to elaborate on his policies. 

McCain is better people surrounding him than Obama does as far as i'm concerned.  Brzezinski being a prime example of a horrible choice by Obama.  I read that wikipedia article, and it doesn't look too good to me.

Axlin16
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Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support

Axlin16 wrote:

McCain's people are horrible at playing politics.


Which I think is a good thing.



His attack Ad's are so terrible and so bad, and so ALL wrong most of the time, that I don't think it's a comment on Obama, as much as it's a comment on McCain just not having mud slinging in his blood. It's not his style.

That's a good thing folks.

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