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Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support
tejastech08 wrote:They're voting for her vagina rather than on the issues.
A vote is a vote....
But people aren't tired of the constant distractions from McCain's campaign? Seriously man, the ads he's been running are some of the lamest, non-issue ads I've ever seen.
Obama laid a golden egg of irrelevancy. Issues are off limits. If McCain didn't try and sidestep some issues now, I would question his intelligence. Its all about winning at all costs now, and Obama made it where the issues have nothing to do with anything. Its all about Palin and a Bush third term, and unfortunately for him neither strategy worked. Now he's fucked. His only hope at this point are the debates.
What the fuck? McCain's policies are almost identical to Bush's on some major issues. How is it distracting the public to point this out? Are you better off than you were 8 years ago when the Republicans took over the White House? That is the question Obama is asking the public because around 90% of the time McCain has supported Bush's policies. It is not irrelevant to point that out.
Obama has pretty much ignored Palin. Have you actually watched him on the campaign trail? No offense, but you seem to be connecting the nutjobs on the Internet directly with Obama himself, and I personally think that's a pretty idiotic way of viewing things. Obama himself is not responsible for the focus on Palin. The media and the nutjobs on the Internet are responsible for that. But as time goes on and people realize that the election is actually about McCain and Obama, perhaps the country will start focusing on the actual issues.
Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support
Say what you want about Rove, but he hits the nail firmly on the head here...
Obama Can't Win Against Palin
Of all the advantages Gov. Sarah Palin has brought to the GOP ticket, the most important may be that she has gotten into Barack Obama's head. How else to explain Sen. Obama's decision to go one-on-one against "Sarah Barracuda," captain of the Wasilla High state basketball champs?
It's a matchup he'll lose. If Mr. Obama wants to win, he needs to remember he's running against John McCain for president, not Mrs. Palin for vice president.
Michael Dukakis spent the last months of the 1988 campaign calling his opponent's running mate, Dan Quayle, a risky choice and even ran a TV ad blasting Mr. Quayle. The Bush/Quayle ticket carried 40 states.
Adlai Stevenson spent the fall of 1952 bashing Dwight Eisenhower's running mate, Richard Nixon, calling him "the kind of politician who would cut down a redwood tree, and then mount the stump and make a speech for conservation." The Republican ticket carried 39 of 48 states.
If Mr. Obama keeps attacking Mrs. Palin, he could suffer the fate of his Democratic predecessors. These assaults highlight his own tissue-thin résumé, waste precious time better spent reassuring voters he is up for the job, and diminish him -- not her.
Consider Mr. Obama's response to CNN's Anderson Cooper, who asked him about Republican claims that Mrs. Palin beats him on executive experience. Mr. Obama responded by comparing Wasilla's 50 city workers with his campaign's 2,500 employees and dismissed its budget of about $12 million a year by saying "we have a budget of about three times that just for the month." He claimed his campaign "made clear" his "ability to manage large systems and to execute."
Of course, this ignores the fact that Mrs. Palin is now governor. She manages an $11 billion operating budget, a $1.7 billion capital expenditure budget, and nearly 29,000 full- and part-time state employees. In two years as governor, she's vetoed over $499 million from Alaska's capital budget -- more money than Mr. Obama is likely to spend on his entire campaign.
And Mr. Obama is not running his campaign's day-to-day operation. His manager, David Plouffe, assisted by others, makes the decisions about the $335 million the campaign has spent. Even if Mr. Obama is his own campaign manager, does that qualify him for president?
A debate between Mr. Obama and Mrs. Palin over executive experience also isn't smart politics for Democrats. As Mr. Obama talks down Mrs. Palin's record, voters may start comparing backgrounds. He won't come off well.
Then there was Mr. Obama's blast Saturday about Mrs. Palin's record on earmarks. He went at her personally, saying, "you been taking all these earmarks when it is convenient and then suddenly you are the champion anti-earmark person."
It's true. Mrs. Palin did seek earmarks as Wasilla's mayor. But as governor, she ratcheted down the state's requests for federal dollars, telling the legislature last year Alaska "cannot and must not rely so heavily on federal government earmarks." Her budget chief directed state agencies to reduce earmark requests to only "the most compelling needs" with "a strong national purpose," explaining to reporters "we really want to skinny it down."
Mr. Obama has again started a debate he can't win. As senator, he has requested nearly $936 million in earmarks, ratcheting up his requests each year he's been in the Senate. If voters dislike earmarks -- and they do -- they may conclude Mrs. Palin cut them, while Mr. Obama grabs for more each year.
Mr. Obama may also pay a price for his "lipstick on a pig" comment. The last time the word "lipstick" showed up in this campaign was during Mrs. Palin's memorable ad-lib in her acceptance speech. Mr. Obama says he didn't mean to aim the comment at Mrs. Palin, but he deserves all the negative flashback he gets from the snarky aside.
Sen. Joe Biden has now joined the attack on Mrs. Palin, saying this week that her views on issues show she's "obviously a backwards step for women." This is a mistake. Mr. Obama is already finding it difficult to win over independent women and Hillary Clinton voters. If it looks like he's going out of his way to attack Mrs. Palin, these voters may conclude it's because he has a problem with strong women.
In Denver two weeks ago, Mr. Obama said, "If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from." That's what he's trying to do, only the object of his painting is Sarah Palin, not John McCain.
In Mrs. Palin, Mr. Obama faces a political phenomenon who has altered the election's dynamics. Americans have rarely seen someone who immediately connects with large numbers of voters at such a visceral level. Mrs. Palin may be the first vice presidential candidate since Lyndon B. Johnson to change an election's outcome. If Mr. Obama keeps attacking her, the odds of Gov. Palin becoming Vice President Palin increase significantly.
- tejastech08
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Except he's dead fucking wrong about Obama's "lipstick on a pig" comment. John motherfucking McCain used that same damn comment multiple times during this very campaign when talking about another female candidate. I don't give a damn if Palin recently used lipstick in a joke. Obama wasn't even talking about her for fuck's sake. It's incredibly misleading to say that he was talking about her.
Biden's comments are accurate. Why in God's name is John McCain against equal pay for equal work for women? To me, that is the same as being against equal pay for equal work for blacks. It's discrimination, period. And somehow he's never called out by the media for this. Obama has brought it up. Biden has brought it up. But no one gives a damn about actual issues. Sarah Palin apparently tows the party line on this issue too. It's a disgusting position to hold in today's day and age.
Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support
What the fuck? McCain's policies are almost identical to Bush's on some major issues. How is it distracting the public to point this out? Are you better off than you were 8 years ago when the Republicans took over the White House? That is the question Obama is asking the public because around 90% of the time McCain has supported Bush's policies. It is not irrelevant to point that out.
Considering he himself has also voted on a truckload of that garbage, I do think its irrelevant, and McCain will point this out in the debates. Go look at Obama's voting record. Its almost a neo con's wet dream.
I posted links somewhere here linking to Obama and Biden's voting records. They are liberals to the bone, but you might be a bit surprised at what they support.
Obama has pretty much ignored Palin.
Now thats a laugh and you know it.
No offense, but you seem to be connecting the nutjobs on the Internet directly with Obama himself, and I personally think that's a pretty idiotic way of viewing things.
How many times do I have to say alot of these attacks are the fault of the bloggers and left wing sites? Hell, I stated it twice already in this thread.
Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support
Except he's dead fucking wrong about Obama's "lipstick on a pig" comment. John motherfucking McCain used that same damn comment multiple times during this very campaign when talking about another female candidate. I don't give a damn if Palin recently used lipstick in a joke. Obama wasn't even talking about her for fuck's sake. It's incredibly misleading to say that he was talking about her.
I think all sides should be able to agree his comment was a mistake and a lot of the rage over that was due to bad timing. Had he said it a month before or a month later, no one would have cared.
Biden's comments are accurate. Why in God's name is John McCain against equal pay for equal work for women? To me, that is the same as being against equal pay for equal work for blacks. It's discrimination, period. And somehow he's never called out by the media for this. Obama has brought it up. Biden has brought it up. But no one gives a damn about actual issues. Sarah Palin apparently tows the party line on this issue too. It's a disgusting position to hold in today's day and age.
I'll quote a republican strategist...
This election is no longer about the issues.
- tejastech08
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Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support
tejastech08 wrote:What the fuck? McCain's policies are almost identical to Bush's on some major issues. How is it distracting the public to point this out? Are you better off than you were 8 years ago when the Republicans took over the White House? That is the question Obama is asking the public because around 90% of the time McCain has supported Bush's policies. It is not irrelevant to point that out.
Considering he himself has also voted on a truckload of that garbage, I do think its irrelevant, and McCain will point this out in the debates. Go look at Obama's voting record. Its almost a neo con's wet dream.
I posted links somewhere here linking to Obama and Biden's voting records. They are liberals to the bone, but you might be a bit surprised at what they support.
Obama has pretty much ignored Palin.
Now thats a laugh and you know it.
No offense, but you seem to be connecting the nutjobs on the Internet directly with Obama himself, and I personally think that's a pretty idiotic way of viewing things.
How many times do I have to say alot of these attacks are the fault of the bloggers and left wing sites? Hell, I stated it twice already in this thread.
And that's what is comical about Republicans portraying Obama as a scary liberal. Fact of the matter is he's pretty damn mainstream. These politicians are all in the back pockets of corporations. Corporations don't give a damn about us. Their #1 priority is making money. That's why having competition is a good thing because it forces the assholes to put out a decent product in order to get our money. At any rate, I'm not really a liberal at all so I don't have any problems with Obama voting for certain so-called "right wing" pieces of legislation. However, I do have a problem with McCain's warmongering. I'm 22 years old and to me it's all about survival. Our military is stretched really thin right now and I don't think our volunteer military can take on a war with Iran right now. A draft would be implemented if we enacted McCain's Iran plans. As far as I know Obama isn't warmongering on Iran like McCain, so that is really the only issue I give a damn about because it has the potential to directly affect me. The rest of it, for the most part, won't directly affect me on a daily basis. I'm not even going to bother voting though because I have moved since 2004 and don't feel like re-registering, plus I live in Texas so McCain will win here easily.
Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support
And that's what is comical about Republicans portraying Obama as a scary liberal.
I pretty much agree with this. I don't know if I said it here or at one of the other sites I post at, but Obama is basically just as much a continuation of the status quo as McCain is. Not entirely of course as there are differences, but alot of this really boils down to character, who you trust in the driver's seat, and a few core issues. Those issues have been taken away, so we're on to the character thing and of course a woman is in the mix now.
Both of these guys(and their advisers) are extremely hawkish, and there will be war no matter who wins. They are both a continuation of the Bush Doctrine, which is oh so ironic considering the liberal outrage over Palin supposedly not knowing what the doctrine is.
I have also considered not voting, but I always do.
- tejastech08
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Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support
tejastech08 wrote:And that's what is comical about Republicans portraying Obama as a scary liberal.
I pretty much agree with this. I don't know if I said it here or at one of the other sites I post at, but Obama is basically just as much a continuation of the status quo as McCain is. Not entirely of course as there are differences, but alot of this really boils down to character, who you trust in the driver's seat, and a few core issues. Those issues have been taken away, so we're on to the character thing and of course a woman is in the mix now.
Both of these guys(and their advisers) are extremely hawkish, and there will be war no matter who wins. They are both a continuation of the Bush Doctrine, which is oh so ironic considering the liberal outrage over Palin supposedly not knowing what the doctrine is.
I have also considered not voting, but I always do.
You are right that Obama does have some hawks surrounding him, but the only public idea he has come out with that was hawkish was bombing terrorist targets in Pakistan. The Republicans quickly jumped on him for it, and a few months later the C.I.A. actually implemented it. I have no problem with us taking out specific targets, but a full-scale war scares the shit out of me. McCain has outright joked about cranking one up with Iran and it's pretty much one of his least moderate positions.
Re: Obama camp in panic as ‘Xena’ Sarah Palin scythes through support
Obama's main foreign policy adviser is Brzezinski. I seriously urge all Obama followers to research him if you don't know him. He dates back to Carter, and this guy is VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY close to the neocons agenda. His actions and views are in full compliance with Bush Doctrine.
Yeah McCain has a hard on for Iran, but that is less scary than Obama's hard on over NATO expansion. Hell, Brzezinski has advocated Soviet/Russia containment for decades. I read a book in the late 90s about the Iran Hostage Crisis, and this guy made me want to puke. I remember when I first heard about his connections to Obama a year ago, I thought it was either a joke or conspiracy crap. Its actually true. I wonder if McCain's digs at Obama about being the "second Jimmy Carter" have anything to do with that connection.
EDIT: After getting a mini wiki crash course on Brzezinski, he actually dates back long before the Carter administration.
For those who never heard of this guy:
- tejastech08
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Brzesinski is an asshole, but from my understanding he is not the main foreign policy adviser for Obama. He is one of them, but he's not the top dog.
