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Re: More McCain /Palin/Karl Rove adss are false
So stupid they can't even get facts straight using FACTCHECK.ORG?!?
Analysis: McCain ad twists truth
By The Associated Press - 1 day ago
TITLE: "Fact Check."
LENGTH: 30 seconds.
AIRING: The campaign would not disclose where this ad will air other than to say in "key states" where McCain already is running commercials. That lack of information raises questions about how often this ad will be seen by voters or whether it was simply made to generate news stories and publicity.
SCRIPT: Announcer: "The attacks on Governor Palin have been called 'completely false' ... 'misleading.' And, they've just begun. The Journal reports Obama 'air-dropped a mini-army of 30 lawyers, investigators and opposition researchers' into Alaska to dig dirt on Governor Palin. As Obama drops in the polls, he'll try to destroy her. Obama's 'politics of hope?' Empty words." McCain: "I'm John McCain and I approved this message."
KEY IMAGES: Palin and Obama are shown, as well as what appears to be a pack of wolves running through brush. McCain also is shown.
ANALYSIS:
This ad takes the truth and twists it.
The campaign asserts that "attacks on Governor Palin have been called 'completely false' and 'misleading" '” and uses pictures of Obama to suggest that the Democrat has been spreading lies about Palin.
To back up its claim, McCain's team points to comments made by prominent Democrats, including some with links to Obama's campaign, incorrectly aligning Palin with Pat Buchanan and a fringe political group in which some members supported Alaska's secession from the United States.
More prominently, McCain's ad quotes a nonpartisan online organization called factcheck.org.
But the group wasn't referring to Obama when it talked of false and misleading attacks. Rather, it referenced Internet rumors, saying: "We've been flooded for the past few days with queries about dubious Internet postings and mass e-mail messages making claims about McCain's running mate, Gov. Palin. We find that many are completely false or misleading."
At the same time, the McCain ad takes Obama's campaign to task over a Wall Street Journal column that said operatives were going to "dig into her record and background." The ad distorts that by saying "dig dirt."
Obama's campaign has called the Journal report "false," and Obama spokesman Josh Earnest said in a conference call that "there are no Obama or DNC staffers or researchers that were air-dropped into Alaska." He declined to answer whether Democratic lawyers in Alaska had been recruited to do research on Palin in the state.
What McCain doesn't say in the ad is that Republicans also have amassed reams of research on Obama and his running mate Joe Biden after going through their records and backgrounds. This "opposition research" is the norm in modern political campaigns, not that a viewer would know that from the commercial.
It's certainly the case that Obama has criticized Palin, saying that she and McCain don't deserve the label of change agents and are spewing "empty words."
But it remains to be seen whether such criticisms have "just begun" as the ad asserts, and whether Obama really will "try to destroy" Palin as he "drops in polls." Neither of those assertions are drawn from facts; McCain's campaign simply is saying what it believes will happen without offering voters any proof.
McCain's ad claims that Obama is spreading misleading information about Palin, yet it was unveiled one day after the GOP ticket itself released its own commercial that stretched the facts.
That ad said that Obama's only education accomplishment was legislation to teach sex education to kindergartners. Obama voted for the sex education bill in committee in 2003 as an Illinois states senator, but he was not the sponsor of that legislation. The bill also would have required age-appropriate information in schools and would have allowed parents to pull their children from sex education classes if they wished. It never became law.
Re: More McCain /Palin/Karl Rove adss are false
Name one "false" ad Obama aired??
Also, 'misleading'?? Factcheck.org was talking about the dailykos rumors yet McCain uses it as talking about Obama's campaign!!
It'd be so funny if the FCC stepped in on this ad. Because they can you know.
Re: More McCain /Palin/Karl Rove adss are false
So now the burden of proof gets thrown in my direction? I'm not surprised. Thats what the change brigade did when they knew they had no idea what they wanted to change, so threw change at the opposition.
All of these ads are like this. This election is dirty. You're not going to see straight out lies by either side. They are gonna distort comments(like you did with Palin and Bush Doctrine), issues,etc. to their advantage. Its nothing new.
However, Obama was sick of "politics as usual", tired of "Washington", and wanted "change" and a "clean campaign". Obviously not. Now the republicans are retaliating and its not peaches and cream.
Re: More McCain /Palin/Karl Rove adss are false
You wanted a campaign full of distortions. Obama going to the national media calling Palin a mayor is a distortion. Now you're getting a taste of your own medicine.
You weren't complaining about those comments. In fact, you used the same distortion here after she was announced. Even if you didn't know her, you knew what her position was because we had talked about her here many months ago. You knew she was Governor yet felt the need to continually call her Mayor. The liberal boggers used it as well until it blew up in their faces.
Many other distortions, but I think my point is made just referencing that particular one.
Now that your candidate is tanking, all of a sudden its a huge problem. I don't think its a problem. I'm glad they did it. It energized the anti Obama base, brought the independents out in droves, caused women to ditch Obama and lean towards McCain even though they don't particularly like him, made a superstar out of Palin who is pretty much destined to be president at some point, and have also caused the balance of power among all branches of government to potentially shift.
All because you wanted a dirty campaign which went against Obama's original vision of a "clean" campaign. He's now wishing he had kept it clean and never uttered the word Palin because his presidential aspirations are being flushed down the toilet.
Re: More McCain /Palin/Karl Rove adss are false
Whatever.. I never heard Obama call her "Mayor". Did he say she "was a mayor" or call her "Mayor" as in current tense. Anyway, how about Palin teasing Obama for passing up big $$ in the corporate law world to work with the poor in Southside Chicago as a Community Organizer. Really classy. Anyway, when I first heard about her, I heard she was a mayor of a town for years. I assumed it wasn't a town of 5,000 people.
Re: More McCain /Palin/Karl Rove adss are false
yes...what is a "community organizer"...hardly worthy of anything, right Palin? right Lofton?
She stuck her foot right in her mouth there...that was plain stupid.
And how dare you blame Democrats for this heightening of the stakes...this is exactly how Republicans have wons the last two elections...
Re: More McCain /Palin/Karl Rove adss are false
I don't think I've ever insulted a "community organizer", so not sure why that would be directed at me. Maybe we'll go over his record as an "organizer" later.
And how dare you blame Democrats for this heightening of the stakes...this is exactly how Republicans have wons the last two elections...
This isn't about prior elections. This was about "change", remember? Or did you forget already just like Obama has?
Re: More McCain /Palin/Karl Rove adss are false
James is 100% correct. For anyone in the Obama campaign, or anyone else to complain because the McCain camp are spreading Internet rumors, has got to be the most blatant example of the pot calling the kettle black, pardon the expression Mr. Obama.
James is completely right, they started attacking this way, Obama, and now McCain is kickin' his ass with his own game, and they're crying in their beer.
