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Re: Obama: McCain, Palin ‘Lying’ About Maverick Claims
FLINT, Mich. '” Barack Obama broadly accused his Republican rivals of dishonesty Monday, citing former lobbyists working for John McCain, Sarah Palin's shifting stance on the 'Bridge to Nowhere' and their promise to change Washington.
With national polls finding the Democratic presidential nominee trailing or in a dead heat with McCain, Obama began the campaign's final eight-week push by criticizing McCain's popular running mate as much as the Arizona senator himself.
He said Palin has an interesting biography '” 'Mother, governor, moose shooter. That's cool,' he said '” but the election should be about who can change people's lives for the better. He said that won't come from a Republican ticket that almost always supports the same positions as President Bush even though they say they will bring reform.
'I mean, you can't just make stuff up,' Obama said of a new McCain ad that says Palin 'stopped the Bridge to Nowhere.' 'You can't just recreate yourself. You can't just reinvent yourself. The American people aren't stupid.'
Obama wouldn't go so far as to say McCain and Palin are lying, even when the audience tried to goad him into it, but he began showing an ad Monday that did.
'Politicians lying about their records?' an announcer asks over a shot of McCain and Palin boarding a plane. 'You don't call that maverick. You call it more of the same.'
McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds responded to the charges of dishonesty by saying: 'Barack Obama should familiarize himself with the honest facts: John McCain and Governor Palin have actually reformed government to root out money in politics and fought wasteful spending '” Sen. Obama has not.'
Obama's ad was a response to the new McCain commercial called 'Original Mavericks' that claims Palin stopped the bridge, a $400 million proposal to connect an island off Alaska with just 50 residents and an airport.
She originally voiced support for it during her campaign for governor, although she was critical of the size, and later abandoned plans for the project. She used the federal dollars for other projects in Alaska.
Obama said McCain's claim that lobbyists will no longer run Washington when he's president 'doesn't seem very plausible.'
'Sounds pretty good until you discover that seven of his top campaign managers and officials are '” guess what? Former corporate lobbyists. So who is he going to tell?
'What they are going to try to do is what they always do, which is attack, go on the negative, distort, mislead, assert,' Obama said, as members of his invitation-only audience of 350 began yelling 'Lie! Lie!' Obama just cocked his head in response as if to say he wasn't going to go there.
Michigan has supported Democratic presidential candidates in the most recent elections, but it is up for grabs this year and is one of the few blue states Obama could be in danger of losing. Monday's stops in Flint and Farmington Hills marked his third visit to Michigan in nine days, a time when Palin's addition to the ticket has resulted in a bounce in the polls for the Republican ticket.
McCain won Michigan in the 2000 Republican primary but lost it to Mitt Romney in January, partly because of his unapologetic assessment that not all of Detroit's lost auto industry jobs would be recovered.
Obama never competed in the state during the primaries as the national party punished Michigan and Florida for holding early contests, stripping them of their delegates. The Democratic presidential candidates largely bypassed the states.
The automotive manufacturing state has been especially hard hit by the economic downturn, and Obama spoke in front of fuel efficient hybrid vehicles that he says he would help Michigan produce to create jobs. The Illinois senator stoked frustrations among residents of the Flint area where the unemployment rate is more than 12 percent '” double the national average.
'You don't have to tell the people of Flint or the people of Michigan that our economy is not in good shape,' Obama said to shouts of 'Yeah!' from the audience. 'You do need to tell John McCain '” because just a few weeks ago he said the economy was fundamentally sound.'
Obama said McCain can't bring change when he votes with President Bush so often.
'It's kind of hard to believe that `I'm going to change us from us,''˜ Obama said. He later laughingly labeled McCain's campaign the 'No Change Express,' a play on its slogan as the 'Straight Talk Express.'
Re: Obama: McCain, Palin ‘Lying’ About Maverick Claims
This guy is officially a moron. There's just no way the public is gonna pull the lever for Obama on election day. Doing so would require an insult to the public's intelligence, and there's not gonna be a majority willing to do that.
He said that won't come from a Republican ticket that almost always supports the same positions as President Bush even though they say they will bring reform.
You support them as well. Go look at your voting record.
Mother, governor, moose shooter.
Love your integrity.
'I mean, you can't just make stuff up,' Obama said of a new McCain ad that says Palin 'stopped the Bridge to Nowhere.' 'You can't just recreate yourself. You can't just reinvent yourself. The American people aren't stupid.'
Obviously YOU think they are stupid, because you are harping on a program that Palin killed which you and your VP candidate supported. Fact.
She originally voiced support for it during her campaign for governor, although she was critical of the size, and later abandoned plans for the project. She used the federal dollars for other projects in Alaska.
You voted for it. What's your point?
'Sounds pretty good until you discover that seven of his top campaign managers and officials are '” guess what? Former corporate lobbyists. So who is he going to tell?
Guess what? Your campaign is neck deep in lobbyists as well. Who are YOU going to tell?
'What they are going to try to do is what they always do, which is attack, go on the negative, distort, mislead, assert,' Obama said
That's what YOU are doing right now.
Re: Obama: McCain, Palin ‘Lying’ About Maverick Claims
She did lie, from the RNC to the latest commercial. Why?? I dunno, she must think the American media is naive or something. Anyway, she won't hold up. Are you getting nervous or something about her lying catching up to her? I said it all along she was lying.
Anyway, I hope McCain is prepared for Obama's ad spending blitz:
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6 … ml?q=obama
Re: Obama: McCain, Palin ‘Lying’ About Maverick Claims
She did lie, from the RNC to the latest commercial. Why?? I dunno, she must think the American media is naive or something. Anyway, she won't hold up. Are you getting nervous or something about her lying catching up to her? I said it all along she was lying.
Anyway, I hope McCain is prepared for Obama's ad spending blitz:
I'm not nervous at all. Obama's digging his own grave. That doesn't make me nervous. If you're even going to consider she's a liar, I hope you hold Obama to that same standard.
Since we're on the topic of Obama and money.....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26615658/
Funny that Obama's cash flow isn't as superior as that link above tries to imply.
Re: Obama: McCain, Palin ‘Lying’ About Maverick Claims
I agree James. Everyday this seems to be Kerry/Edwards 2008 and it's not going to get Obama elected.
'Recreate history'... oh, you mean like on that abortion bill? That kind? Oh okay...
I mean I don't want to do that, but he better watch his mouth. It CAN and WILL be played both ways. He's leaving HIMSELF vunerable, just like Biden is with all of this anti-war garbage.
Re: Obama: McCain, Palin ‘Lying’ About Maverick Claims
Obama has nothing left but attack ads and calling McCain Bush. People will realize when the debates start up and there is no teleprompter for him to read. I also find it funny how people question Palin's experience when Obama himself has no big time experience. Oh I forgot voting "Present" on the hard issues must count for something eh?
Re: Obama: McCain, Palin ‘Lying’ About Maverick Claims
You're all right! I'm wrong!...McCain is the savior...we all want more of the same...and although I can't promoise Obama will be different, I can promise McCain will be!
We're all getting bogged down in this mud-slinging BS when the fact of the matter is I don't like how things are...and I don't see how you can seperate Bush from McCain. Maybe they don't hang out together, but they think similarly.
Answer me...and especially I'm asking you Lofton...what is so god damned great about the Republican party...what is it about organized religion, pro-life, corporate loving "mavericks" that will help this country in any way? Convince me that they deserve my vote. I see NO appeal in the Republican values...
They may however be better at selecting candidates than appeal to the masses on very superficial factors...but when it comes down to what being a standard Republican means...why don't you just come right out and say you're a Federalist....because Republicans 50 or 75 years ago were not where near what they are about now.
We are so divided in this country and that's a horrible thing. This election will come down to the end...hell...Obama could win the popular vote just as Gore did and still lose, or vice versa...this is all bad for our country...
Re: Obama: McCain, Palin ‘Lying’ About Maverick Claims
You're all right! I'm wrong!...McCain is the savior...we all want more of the same...and although I can't promoise Obama will be different, I can promise McCain will be!
We're all getting bogged down in this mud-slinging BS when the fact of the matter is I don't like how things are...and I don't see how you can seperate Bush from McCain. Maybe they don't hang out together, but they think similarly.
Answer me...and especially I'm asking you Lofton...what is so god damned great about the Republican party...what is it about organized religion, pro-life, corporate loving "mavericks" that will help this country in any way? Convince me that they deserve my vote. I see NO appeal in the Republican values...
They may however be better at selecting candidates than appeal to the masses on very superficial factors...but when it comes down to what being a standard Republican means...why don't you just come right out and say you're a Federalist....because Republicans 50 or 75 years ago were not where near what they are about now.
We are so divided in this country and that's a horrible thing. This election will come down to the end...hell...Obama could win the popular vote just as Gore did and still lose, or vice versa...this is all bad for our country...
Wait a minute.....I thought this election was about change? Is belittling republicans change?
Serious question:
What has Obama ever changed in his illustrious Senate career, and based on that specific change what do you expect him to change if he wins the presidency?
Some of your points are valid(republican party hijacked by neocons, a divided country), but now is the time to spill the beans on all this change.
