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Re: Georgia and Russia Nearing All-Out War
Here the news: http://samsonblinded.org/news/governmen … ussia-2647 Israelis supply weapons to Georgia!
Modern Israeli weapons would definitely defeat the outdated Russian army which lacks trained pilots and tank drivers, in fact none of them conforms to the Israeli or American standards for the lack of training.
That article lost all credibility right there. Its simply not true.
For an army that "lacks training", they sure are kicking some ass that was trained by US forces and are using US and Israeli weapons.
Re: Georgia and Russia Nearing All-Out War
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush said Wednesday he is dispatching U.S. military personnel to Georgia in a "vigorous and ongoing" mission to provide humanitarian aid to victims of the fighting between Russian and Georgian troops.
President Bush Wednesday calls on Russia to remove its troops from Georgia.
Shortly after Bush spoke, the White House announced that a U.S. Air Force C-17 cargo jet carrying medical supplies arrived in the Georgian capital of Tbilisi.
Another C-17 is to arrive in Tbilisi on Thursday carrying more supplies, including 104,000 doses of antibiotics requested by the Georgian Ministry of Health, a State Department spokesman said. The value of both shipments is $1.28 million, he said.
Bush said more U.S. military aid missions were planned by the Navy and Air Force.
He warned Russia not to interfere with any relief efforts.
"We expect Russia to honor its commitment to let in all forms of humanitarian assistance. We expect Russia to ensure that all lines of communication and transport, including seaports, airports, roads and airspace, remain open for the delivery of humanitarian assistance and for civilian transit," Bush said at the White House.
Russia sent troops and tanks into the breakaway Georgia region of South Ossetia last week after Georgia's military acted to clamp down on Russian-linked separatists there. Separatists in South Ossetia want independence -- or unification with North Ossetia, which is in Russia.
Russian forces have since moved out of South Ossetia and into other parts of Georgia.
Bush said he expected Russia to honor a truce agreement made Tuesday.
"We expect Russia to meet its commitment to cease all military activities in Georgia, and we expect all Russian forces that entered Georgia in recent days to withdraw from that country," Bush said.
Because of the situation in Georgia, Bush has decided to delay his summer vacation at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, for "a day or two," White House Secretary Dana Perino said.
The president said he was sending Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to Europe to express "America's unwavering support" for the Georgian government.
Rice will travel to France, which negotiated the ceasefire between Russia and Georgia on Tuesday. Rice will then head to Tbilisi, Bush said.
After traveling to Paris and Tbilisi, Rice will travel to NATO headquarters in Brussels, Belgium, on Tuesday where she will meet with NATO's Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer and ministers of the North Atlantic Council, the alliance's governing body, spokeswoman Carmen Romero told CNN.
French President Nicolas Sarkozy, acting as the president of the European Union, had negotiated the ceasefire agreement between Russia and Georgia, which called on the two nations to return to the positions they held on August 6, before Georgia's crackdown on South Ossetia. Video Watch Bush express support for Georgia's democracy »
Bush said the United States is concerned about reports that Russian units have taken positions on the east side of Gori, which is just outside of South Ossetia, and that they have entered and taken positions in the Black Sea port city of Poti.
Russian personnel carriers were moving toward the Georgian capital of Tbilisi, CNN's Matthew Chance also reported on Wednesday.
Dimitry Peskov, a spokesman for the Russian government, said Wednesday that the troops were demilitarizing the area near the South Ossetia border and "never had plans" to travel to the capital. Video Watch the Russian spokesman explain tank movements »
State Department officials said they were concerned by Russia's moves.
Administration officials told CNN that the United States and its European allies were considering kicking Russia out of the G-8, the group of the world's largest industrial economies, and other international organizations as punishment for its actions in Georgia. They also said Russia's relationship with NATO is also at risk. Video Watch Russian tanks move toward Tbilisi »
The United States appears to have let its European allies take the lead on the diplomatic efforts to stop the fighting in Georgia, Zain Verjee, CNN's State Department correspondent, said.
The Europeans have a greater influence over Russia and the United States needs Russia to help with other thorny diplomatic issues, such as efforts to pressure Iran to suspend its nuclear program, Verjee reported.
Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili criticized the United States on Wednesday during an interview with CNN for not taking more measures to help. Video Watch Saakashvili fault the U.S. response »
"America is losing the whole region, and this is the region of eastern and central Europe," said Saakashvili, who called for U.S. and European powers to send peacekeepers to the region. "This is much bigger than any other place where there is American influence, and this is the most natural allies of America."
But U.S. officials said they warned Saakashvili not to provoke Russia militarily by sending Georgian troops into South Ossetia and that they had ruled out any U.S. military action to defend Georgia.
Russia's move in Georgia is happening amid an overall struggle between the United States and Russia for influence within Eastern Europe. From Russia's point of view, American support for Georgia is a direct threat to its influence.
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By striking heavily in Georgia, Moscow, Russia, is sending a signal to other former Soviet republics, such as Ukraine and Moldova, said Sarah Mendelson, the director of the Human Rights and Security Initiative at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.
"If I were a neighbor of Russia and I saw what Russia had done in Georgia, I would be very nervous," Mendelson said. "I think those countries that are leaning toward the West are very nervous today."
Re: Georgia and Russia Nearing All-Out War
President Bush said Wednesday he is dispatching U.S. military personnel to Georgia in a "vigorous and ongoing" mission to provide humanitarian aid to victims of the fighting between Russian and Georgian troops.
This can't be true. How could Bush be so stupid as to risk war with Russia? This could very well lead to war between us and Russia.
Re: Georgia and Russia Nearing All-Out War
Well, someone has to bring in supplies for the injured, homeless,etc. Thats usually the job of the United States.
Its definitely risky though, but all operations are. I am on Russia's side on this issue, but they are walking a fine line. As long as they don't interfere with humanitarian missions, they have nothing to be ashamed of in this conflict.
Re: Georgia and Russia Nearing All-Out War
Russia-Georgia conflict created a big headache for Israel which armed and trained Georgians for years - and now suddenly Russians threaten retaliation by supplying S-300 SAM batteries to Syria. Here is what a prominent Israeli analyst says: http://samsonblinded.org/blog/on-russia … israel.htm
Re: Georgia and Russia Nearing All-Out War
Medvedev: We're '˜not afraid' of a new Cold War
MOSCOW - Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, speaking in the midst of one of the lowest points in the Russia-West relationship since the breakup of the Soviet Union 17 years ago, said Tuesday that his country did not seek a new Cold War '” but neither was it afraid of one.
"We are not afraid of anything, including the prospect of a new Cold War," Medvedev was quoted as saying Tuesday by the ITAR-Tass news agency. "But we don't want it and in this situation everything depends on the position of our partners."
The statement comes hours after Medvedev recognized the independence of two Georgian rebel provinces, defying the West. The recognition '” which Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice described as "extremely unfortunate" '” follows a short but intense war with Western-allied Georgia earlier this month.
"If they want to preserve good relations with Russia in the West, they will understand the reason behind our decision," Medvedev said.
Medvedev said that he had signed a decree on the decision to recognize the separatist regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Few other nations are likely to follow the move.
Rice said the United States continued to regard both breakaway regions as "part of the internationally recognized borders of Georgia."
Speaking in Texas, White House spokesman Tony Fratto on Tuesday said Russia is making a number of "irrational" decisions that puts its place in the world at risk.
Fratto said the U.S. will use its veto power on the U.N. Security Council to make sure any effort to change the provinces' international status is "dead on arrival."
On the heels of Russia's first post-Soviet invasion of a foreign country, recognition was another stark demonstration of the Kremlin's determination to hold sway in lands where its clout is jeopardized by NATO's expansion and growing Western influence.
Meanwhile, the the United States dispatched military ships bearing aid to a port city still controlled by Russian troops.
'˜Absolutely not acceptable'
Rice also accused Medvedev of failing to honor his nation's commitments under an internationally backed cease-fire.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Russia's recognition of the breakaway areas was "absolutely not acceptable." She insisted Medvedev's decision violates international agreements.
Medvedev said Georgia forced Russia's hand by launching an attack targeting South Ossetia on Aug. 7 in an apparent bid to seize control of the breakaway region.
In response, Russian tanks and troops drove deep into the U.S. ally's territory in a five-day war that Moscow saw as a justified response to a military threat in its backyard and the West viewed as a repeat of Soviet-style intervention in its vassal states.
"This is not an easy choice but this is the only chance to save people's lives," Medvedev said Tuesday in a televised address announcing Russia's recognition of the breakaway territories.
Russian forces have staked out positions beyond the de-facto borders of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. The two territories have effectively ruled themselves following wars in the 1990s.
Source : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26403580/
Re: Georgia and Russia Nearing All-Out War
Fratto said the U.S. will use its veto power on the U.N. Security Council to make sure any effort to change the provinces' international status is "dead on arrival."
Fuck off. Its a bluff and you know it. We rely on Russia for too many things to make anything "dead on arrival".
German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Russia's recognition of the breakaway areas was "absolutely not acceptable." She insisted Medvedev's decision violates international agreements.
Funny you cant list what it violates. That would mean listing US/Euro invasions of sovereign nations as "violations", and we know you aren't doing that anytime soon.
"We are not afraid of anything, including the prospect of a new Cold War,"
Yeah, and hopefully the US is smart enough to realize the Russian bear is now no longer hibernating.
Meanwhile, the the United States dispatched military ships bearing aid to a port city still controlled by Russian troops.
Russia wont blink in that stare down, so be careful.
Russia-Georgia conflict created a big headache for Israel which armed and trained Georgians for years - and now suddenly Russians threaten retaliation by supplying S-300 SAM batteries to Syria.
As they should. Russia isn't going to lay down anymore.
