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- tejastech08
- Rep: 194
Re: So it looks like Joe Biden is Obama's VP choice
He makes more than that a year. Does he donate his entire salary to charity??
I'm not falling for the coming wave of propaganda.
Article from March 2007 about it:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 05_pf.html
I don't know why they would feel a need to propagandize something like that back in March 2007, but hey, suit yourself.
- tejastech08
- Rep: 194
Re: So it looks like Joe Biden is Obama's VP choice
And here's an OpenSecrets.org profile of him through 2006:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/CIDsumm … &year=2006
Net worth listed between -$302,980 and +$277,997
Income listed as being $185,700
OpenSecrets.org is a pretty reliable website. Non-partisan too. I don't think it's propaganda.
Re: So it looks like Joe Biden is Obama's VP choice
You don't need money in the bank when you're a senator.
He also got investments in trusts. Dozens upon dozens of them in fact. None of which show accurate value. With an income of at least 180k and low expenses because of his position, I'd say his funds could be considerable. Either way, as a Senator he's hardly eating cheerios and saving coupons. Fancy business dinners, trips, parties...it hasn't changed much since Rome, has it?
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: So it looks like Joe Biden is Obama's VP choice
I was reading today that Powell is on the short list for McCain's VP slot. Now whether or not Powell would accept is a seperate issue, but I assume that he wouldn't be on there if he hadn't talked with McCain. Personally a McCain-Powell ticket would be my fucking dream come true. Two real Republicans that would take the country in the right direction and have the experince and record to do so. If Powell does become McCain's VP (and I'm not saying he will) the Democrats can kiss goodbye another election (and it's looking like it's gonna happen that way regardless). Democrats need to learn that feel good speeches and pointing the finger at everyone else doesn't payout big in the end.
Re: So it looks like Joe Biden is Obama's VP choice
While it would make a good ticket, and is a certain shame it didn't happen in 2000, I don't think it's happening. Colin Powell is retired from politics, partly because his wife wanted him to get out of it, and partly because George W Bush drove him crazy. Further evidence Bush flushed the GoP down the toilet.
Personally I think McCain will end up taking Tim Pawlenty. Mainly due to process of elimination. Romney is a plastic joke who belongs on The West Wing on NBC, Lieberman is more boring than a piece of cardboard and would alienate conservative Republicans who just wouldn't vote, Ridge is similar plus wouldn't bring PA, Palin is still interesting, but I don't think he'll choose her, which leaves this Tim Pawlenty and though I haven't heard much about him lately Charlie Crist of Fla probably could help.
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: So it looks like Joe Biden is Obama's VP choice
Pawlenty is an interesting choice if he can bring in Minnesotta. Alot of people get caught up in national polls, but what matters is what is happening in a few states. If McCain can grab Minnesotta and keep everything he is already poised to take (Ohio and Virginia) then he wins the election. I read alot of websites and alot of people get bent out of shape over who leads on what issue or what the latest USA Today poll says who is more popular, but it comes down to electoral votes and the opinion of a few key states. If Obama can't win over Ohio and he loses Colorado and/or Nevada (states that should be his) then it's over for him.
Re: So it looks like Joe Biden is Obama's VP choice
Dude, fuck all you guys. Gas was a buck 47 when Bush took office. It went up to over $4. That WOULDN'T have happened if a Texan didn't take office.
Gas wasn't $4 a gallon when Lyndon Johnson was in office. He was a Texan. So that theory is debunked.
Oh, and 9/11 had a BIG effect on our economy, including $80 billion out of the gate to bail the airline industry out, because NOBODY was flying.
Not Bush's fault, and name me one other president that had to deal with that. No one.
Your gas is $4 a gallon, because tree hugging baby boomer San Francisco-Democrats like Nancy Pelosi, who is speaker of the house, are keeping the country from off-shore drilling and not being able to GET OFF OPEC OIL! And Ms. Pelosi not allowing this country to fuel speculation that the U.S. is getting out of the foreign oil market, it will not affect the market. She's more worried about saving the planet, than saving America.
Oh, and just FYI the prices for a barrel of crude, as well as a price of a gallon of gas at the pump went down the LARGEST in 3 years within only days of Bush symbolically lifting the ban on off-shore drilling.
Just Bush fueling speculation that we are getting out of the business of foreign oil, drove prices down by nearly $0.50 cents a gallon within a week in my area. Just imagine if we started pumping are own stuff, if not even just nationalizing the entire oil business in this country, which is what I think they should do.
And we won't goto war with another country to get credit cards decent contracts overseas like with did with Dick Cheney & Haliburton, so open your fucking eyes assholes.
Haliburton, lmao. 
As soon as I hear that I know someone has a grudge.
Are you also a 9/11 truther? 
Is McCain a bad person NO. But Geroge Bush royally ruined the Republican Party as Randall Flagg knew it, and it's over. 2006 Democratic Senate, 2008 Democratic PWhite House. Bank It. Time for GoP to rethink their agenda because they're fucked!!
Actually in alot of ways Ronald Reagan ruined the Republican party, yet he was also the man that revolutionized it in the 80's. At that time, people thought this whole pro-family, pro-Christian hardcore conservativeism would drive the Republican party to new heights. It did in 1980, 1984 & 1988, when Reagan saw two elections and H.W. Bush one. W. Bush saw an election on these values in 2000, because he was the last of his kind.
I'll agree that the Republican party needs a huge rebuilding process in their core social values, because most of the diehard right-wingers have become so disconnected with social issues that it isn't even funny. But this would've happened whether it was Bush or someone else. The days of the 'Reagan-conservative' are over, and thus the reason Romney & Huckabee didn't get the nod.
But the Democrats are dead too, but for entirely different reasons. The anti-war people have murdered that party, and when I say murder, I mean robbed at gun point, raped, shot twice in the back of the head, and left in a ditch. DEAD!
The Republicans will move forward when they get the Bible Thumpers out of the party.
The Democrats will move forward when they get anti-war baby boomers out of the party.
Neither represent the majority of voters for EITHER party. They only represent the hardcore fringe of each party, and not the normal middle of the road moderate.
Matthews on Hardball reported that Biden's net worth is $100,000-150,000. That's pretty impressive on the non-elitist front for a senator.
Matthews is a propagandist douche bag, that I wouldn't believe to tell me the weather, and NBC is a proven biased toilet. The reason they're #3 behind Fox & CNN.
But even if the Biden numbers are true, that's still FAR FAR FAR more money then i've ever made.
While it would make a good ticket, and is a certain shame it didn't happen in 2000, I don't think it's happening. Colin Powell is retired from politics, partly because his wife wanted him to get out of it, and partly because George W Bush drove him crazy. Further evidence Bush flushed the GoP down the toilet.
Personally I think McCain will end up taking Tim Pawlenty. Mainly due to process of elimination. Romney is a plastic joke who belongs on The West Wing on NBC, Lieberman is more boring than a piece of cardboard and would alienate conservative Republicans who just wouldn't vote, Ridge is similar plus wouldn't bring PA, Palin is still interesting, but I don't think he'll choose her, which leaves this Tim Pawlenty and though I haven't heard much about him lately Charlie Crist of Fla probably could help.
Crist would help probably get Florida for McCain, but outside of that not much is known about him. Obama wouldn't be able to attack Crist's inexperience, because it would undermine his own campaign, but Obama could attack Crist's family values, as Crist only recently got engaged for the first time, ever I think.
