You are not logged in. Please register or login.
- Topics: Active | Unanswered
- Communist China
- Rep: 130
Re: Overall feelings on the CD era songs....
People have been talking about dated, and the influences... and I'm STILL the only one to hear a ton of Faith No More in If The World? It's almost a FNM cover tune, yet all I hear is that it's a BH 70s funk-porn song. I can't be the only one to hear that.
EDIT: Just saw the post in the If The World thread. That's what I'm talking about. I hear way more of that than I do BH.
It's a 20th century album I guess. But then again the popular new rock music like Buckcherry is pretty much just going back to old Aerosmith roots, so what does that tell you? It's really hard to define a sound that's current... it's just a certain type of retro that's popular right now and that isn't really what CD is, I guess.
- Smoking Guns
- Rep: 330
Re: Overall feelings on the CD era songs....
GNR is more like Dream Theatre now, which were heavily influenced by Rush. So is GNR a modern day Rush?
Re: Overall feelings on the CD era songs....
People have been talking about dated, and the influences... and I'm STILL the only one to hear a ton of Faith No More in If The World? It's almost a FNM cover tune, yet all I hear is that it's a BH 70s funk-porn song. I can't be the only one to hear that.
EDIT: Just saw the post in the If The World thread. That's what I'm talking about. I hear way more of that than I do BH.
It's a 20th century album I guess. But then again the popular new rock music like Buckcherry is pretty much just going back to old Aerosmith roots, so what does that tell you? It's really hard to define a sound that's current... it's just a certain type of retro that's popular right now and that isn't really what CD is, I guess.
I know someone who is a huge FNM fan on an STP forum, i will ask him to listen to If the World and see what he thinks. I haven't heard too much of them so i can't really say.
One of the biggest problems with current music is that there really is no one sound that can define the time. It's not like Grunge, or Hair Metal or anything like that.
Smoking Guns- guitars don't get my dick hard. The mixing is off on these songs, and they do sound a little cluttered. But just because of that, you can't say that other music is better musically. Musically these tracks are beyond Snakepit.
- Smoking Guns
- Rep: 330
Re: Overall feelings on the CD era songs....
Communist China wrote:People have been talking about dated, and the influences... and I'm STILL the only one to hear a ton of Faith No More in If The World? It's almost a FNM cover tune, yet all I hear is that it's a BH 70s funk-porn song. I can't be the only one to hear that.
EDIT: Just saw the post in the If The World thread. That's what I'm talking about. I hear way more of that than I do BH.
It's a 20th century album I guess. But then again the popular new rock music like Buckcherry is pretty much just going back to old Aerosmith roots, so what does that tell you? It's really hard to define a sound that's current... it's just a certain type of retro that's popular right now and that isn't really what CD is, I guess.
I know someone who is a huge FNM fan on an STP forum, i will ask him to listen to If the World and see what he thinks. I haven't heard too much of them so i can't really say.
One of the biggest problems with current music is that there really is no one sound that can define the time. It's not like Grunge, or Hair Metal or anything like that.
Smoking Guns- guitars don't get my dick hard. The mixing is off on these songs, and they do sound a little cluttered. But just because of that, you can't say that other music is better musically. Musically these tracks are beyond Snakepit.
Hahahaha, well, as a guitar player, some of the shit Slash plays hits me. Same for other players. The "getting a hard on" line was an expression to say its bad ass.
I think Serial Killer could hang with some of these songs no problem. I think the songs with the mix Slash got would be a whole lot better.
- Smoking Guns
- Rep: 330
Re: Overall feelings on the CD era songs....
I'm a huge Dream Theater fan. I see virtually no similarities.
That is because Dream Thearter is better at being Dream Theatre. I said that because some of this stuff is close to prog.
Re: Overall feelings on the CD era songs....
Again, I hear complaints about the mixing. Fine, but we can't say with 100 percent certainty they will sound like this in the finished product. That's why I'm not gonna jump off the ledge and say Izzy's or Duff's solo crap is better. There is stuff I'd like to see addressed, and hopefully the final mix settles it.
Re: Overall feelings on the CD era songs....
I can't believe what i am reading. I think hell just froze over.
How the hell can VR be better than these leaks? Contraband was already written when Scott came in, and then he tried to sing and write for the music, which obviously didn't work too well. Libertad was one big mess. Horrible writing, uninspired songs, and a record that really feels like it wasn't taken seriously at all. Take 4 amazing musicians, and you should get an amazing album. Didn't happen that way.
Slash, Scott, Duff, and Matt have all written amazing music in their careers. CB and Libertad definintley were not their best works, not even close.
The Blues is one of the best songs Axl has ever written. Every single one of BH's solos are amazing. Robin shines on songs like Better. Now we get to hear Tommy shine as well. Huge's work is critical.
So how can VR be better? Just because of songs like Slither and FTP?
Everyone is going on about how great VR were, and how great Libertad was. Where the fuck are the hit singles off of that? That's right, nothing topped their first album that people consider their worst.
I'm amazed right now. The talent of the band that made these songs is something we haven't seen in a long time.
Seriously outside the cozey confines of the Gn'R forum world would think The Blues is one of the greatest songs Axl has ever written? I just don't see that happening. Up there with SCOM, Civil War, November Rain, Estranged? No way. And again here we go judging VR's material on their talent. Saying they should be able to do much more. Well maybe if they spent 10 years doing it they would but they wanna fucking rock so they throw some shit together and there ya go. The talent in this Gn'R + the material we've heard + the time it's taken = major letdown. If the talent arguement can apply to VR it certainly can apply to Gn'R when they're arguebaly a more talented group of musicians.
Here's the thing. Axl has surrounded himself with a bunch of yes men. Argue it all you want but it's the way it is. Axl is the engine in all this. The songs are his, the direction is his, the ambition is his and there's nobody in this band to tell him to fuck off and lay down a track. In VR you got a bunch of no nonsense rockers. Super talented but with an ounce of the ambition. VR's like a Porsche but with nobody to drive it. Get Axl and the VR guys back together and you'd have the driver to run the fucking Porsche. I have no doubt in my mind that if these guys could sit down and work out their differences they'd blow any of this new Gn'R stuff outta the water. Slash and Duff would have no problem telling Axl enough is enough. Axl would bring his vision, Slash would bring that vision to fruition and there ya go. You'd a have a Gn'R with attitude, you'd have new and exciting music. It's called chemistry and i relly dont' thik the new Gn'R has "IT". I don't believe this new Gn'R has acomplished anything that the old Gn'R couldn't have. I mean with everyone that's been involved you'd think we'd have one song that we could all at least agree on but we don't and we're far from it.
I agree with Dreamline about Axl's voice.There's always been something about it that is appealing even when it's in the shitter. Just imagine Axl singing on Contraband or even Libertad with his knack for melody and lyrics. They'd fucking rock. It's not the guys in VR who let it down in my opinion. They just didn't have the proper driver. They aren't out to set the world on fire or be something they aren't. Axl on the other hand is too busy trying to be everything at once and it simply comes up flat.
Whoa. I kinda got of topic there. Sorry.
- Communist China
- Rep: 130
Re: Overall feelings on the CD era songs....
We went from VR comparisons to Snakepit comparisons???
Whats next: Pisser??
Say what you will, but Pisser is real rock. None of these bloated, uninspired messes in Pisser. Just real music. 
