The General and Monsters

carlossacanell

I've said in other topics. I think Slash & Duff are busy with their projects. Axl has the intention of keeping releasing the old CD songs with Slash and Duff and the new music Slash or Duff create for GNR we don't know if Axl will accept It for GNR.
Back in the middle 90's.
Sorry if i sound pesimistic...

monkeychow

I agree.

I would expect at some point if he doesn't retire, Axl will release the other songs that had completed or semi-completed vocals. If for no other reason than as his voice gets older vintage recordings of him in prime form become more useful.

A good example is "Shadow of Your Love" - always a fun song, but it was used as a throw away B side more than once in their prime. Nothing wrong with it - but in an age where people are sitting down and writing YCBMs or Estrangeds or Comas it wasn't a star, But give it 20 years when the fire of the old band is long gone and suddenly it's a hidden gem and they released a whole box set around it.

In the same way songs like Atlas, State of Grace , and maybe even something half done like Eye on You, while maybe not as exciting in 2001 as the TWATs or TILs are going to increase in usefulness to the band just because they have usable vocals.

That said, if eveything seems as chilled and happy go lucky as the band seems to be these days, i could imagine Axl adding lyrcis to one or two new riffs or something too even though we know he's said he doesn't prefer to work with completed guitar instrumentals. A bit like how he added Slither to the set apparently to please slash, you could imagine if they do some kind of EP in the future he might let slash get something of his own on there too.

Given Axl is 62 this year, I would assume we are in the final 10 years or so of the band. So I mean i would kinda believe a break now, then maybe some kind of EP release or another drip feed release (like Absurd/Perhaps etc) to clear out any leftover songs and freshen things up, then another global tour leg spaced out casually over 24 months or something. Then you'd think they would think seriously about some kind of farewell tour etc. Or if people don't believe in new music...I could see a longer gap then a farewell tour.

I mean i think slash will tour till he dies like BB king....but Duff has a family and is gunna wanna be a grandpa at some stage, Axl's voice has enough in the tank for the time being, but it's hard to picture him doing this at 75 - then Again he is Axl...maybe he comes out at 90 with full rasp out of nowhere...who the fuck knows.

I think we have another chapter left to write after this break, but yeah, I could imagine projects might swap to either what is most fun for them personally, or what nets the most money without too much drama (like residencies etc), as they are rich and old already and I doubt they have a lot to prove to anyone.

carlossacanell

I'm agree.
The only thing if i were Axl is put out my work during all these years. What a shame he doesn't release all the CD material

polluxlm

Axl autobiography would be pretty interesting. It will probably fare better now than 10-15 years ago when the world was still kind of hostile to him. I think that is less the case now.

monkeychow

I don't think he'll put it out until the band retires, as he kinda implied (i think it was in the china exchange interview but not sure) that it could damage repaired friendships to hear his version of past events. It would be fascinating to hear his experience from his perspective though.

carlossacanell

And when do you think the band will retire? Axl voice is not very well right now. But this man is a beast and could surprise us the next time we see him performing

monkeychow

Hard to know.

Time fucks with even the best plans - and at their age they could become unable at any stage suddenly, but then again, they might also have many years ahead with modern healthcare etc.

I remember Nikki Sixx saying he thought Slash would be the BB King of our generation performing until the day he drops, I think that is very likely.

Axl - it's hard to know - he's shown over the years he does things for his own reasons and not necessarily what the industry tells him to do. As far as we can tell he's looked happier on stage in recent years - he seems to enjoy the shows and get a lot out of it - so I assume he will continue for now.

As you said he has problems compared to his prime, but then he always seems to be saving up a little bit of juice for a rainyday too.

Look at how 2016 Axl/Dc had a powerful voice compared to 2012 a few years earlier. Or even the TWAT screams last year were stronger than 2015 or so....he is a bit of a vocal freak so who knows what he could pull out of the tank. There's also other stuff they could do if needed like perform the songs in a lower key etc. That said....he obviously doesn't have his 1990 voice either...who can blame him.

I hope they will regroup and release another round of CD leftovers, and perhaps if we're lucky maybe even some new modern slash/axl/Duff offering in a new cycle. But it's one of those things where you can imagine it happening or not happening with equal possibility. I was encouraged by the release of Absurd/Hardschool/Perhaps/General - it shows he does still want to share his music with us. But it's GNR...they could fill in 5 years doing that or the rest of our lives.

Then I would assume they will do some type of farewell tour before the very end, just because it's the financially smart thing to do, although I would assume they are not wanting for money now, but you'd think maybe even just bookending things would have an appeal to them as performers and artists. I hope the fresh album cycle happens, but I could also see them laying low or just doing occasional festivals or residencies for a few years then the goodbye stuff...

So... if they did something close to both those things kinda leisurely - say over 12 years or so - that would put Axl around 74....for context Brian in Ac/Dc is 76 and they're rumoured to be doing farewell tour type things soon.

So time is sort of the enemy now more than it ever was, I hope they get busy in the next couple of years with some type of project as it gets less and less possibe to take the sort of timeframes they have used up in the past.

carlossacanell

I ealways think is a real shame this band hasn't more albums. What a shame. Hope they release at least new leftovers this year at some point. Not only Monsters wich we already have it

furly06

Can I get the final version of Monsters? I only have the demo. Thanks

furly06

Can I also have the Atlas leak?

Re: The General and Monsters

Re: The General and Monsters

Re: The General and Monsters

Re: The General and Monsters

Re: The General and Monsters

Re: The General and Monsters

Re: The General and Monsters

Re: The General and Monsters

Re: The General and Monsters

Re: The General and Monsters

Board footer