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Re: Bill Clinton says "cover up" regarding Hillary's chances
(CNN) -- Former President Bill Clinton said that Democrats were more likely to lose in November if Hillary Clinton is not the nominee, and suggested some were trying to "push and pressure and bully" superdelegates to make up their minds prematurely.
Bill Clinton did not explain who he was accusing of "covering up" Sen. Clinton's chances.
"I can't believe it. It is just frantic the way they are trying to push and pressure and bully all these superdelegates to come out," Clinton said at a South Dakota campaign stop Sunday, in remarks first reported by ABC News.
Clinton also suggested some were trying to "cover up" Sen. Clinton's chances of winning in key states that Democrats will have to win in the general election.
" 'Oh, this is so terrible: The people they want her. Oh, this is so terrible: She is winning the general election, and he is not. Oh my goodness, we have to cover this up.' "
Clinton did not expound on who he was accusing.
The former president added that his wife had not been given the respect she deserved as a legitimate presidential candidate.
"She is winning the general election today and he is not, according to all the evidence," Clinton said. "And I have never seen anything like it. I have never seen a candidate treated so disrespectfully just for running."
"Her only position was, 'Look, if I lose I'll be a good team player. We will all try to win, but let's let everybody vote, and count every vote,' " he said.
The former president suggested that if the New York senator ended the primary season with an edge in the popular vote, it would be a significant development.
"If you vote for her and she does well in Montana and she does well in Puerto Rico, when this is over she will be ahead in the popular vote," Clinton said.
"And they're trying to get her to cry uncle before the Democratic Party has to decide what to do in Florida and Michigan," which Clinton said the party would need to do "unless we want to lose the election."
The current requirement to claim the Democratic presidential nomination is 2,026 delegates, a formula that does not take into account delegates from Florida and Michigan, whose contests were not sanctioned by the party because they moved them up earlier on the primary calendar.
But if those votes were counted as cast, Hillary Clinton would still trail rival Barack Obama in the overall delegate count.
The former president said Sunday that the media had unfairly attacked his wife since the Iowa caucuses, repeating an often-used charge that press coverage had made him feel as though he were living in a "fun house."
"If you notice, there hasn't been a lot of publicity on these polls I just told you about," he said. "It is the first time you've heard it? Why do you think that is? Why do you think? Don't you think if the polls were the reverse and he was winning the Electoral College against Senator McCain and Hillary was losing it, it would be blasted on every television station?"
He added, "You would know it wouldn't you? It wouldn't be a little secret. And there is another Electoral College poll that I saw yesterday had her over 300 electoral votes. ... She will win the general election if you nominate her. They're just trying to make sure you don't."
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Re: Bill Clinton says "cover up" regarding Hillary's chances
I agree with the Clintons on this. Obama supporters want to dismiss Hillary because he has more delegates than her. While this is true, he doesn't have the required amount to win the nomination. If Obama supporters and democrats in general care so much about the rules and democracy, why aren't they abiding by the rules. Someone made a joke recently about Clinton that said "Why doesn't hillary like football, because she doesn't like thats he can't change the goal post." But Obama is the one guilty of this. 2026 is the number required to win, not one vote less. What Obama is saying is "I made it to the 5 yard line while HIllary only made it to the 10, so I win." Neither candidate has met the number needed to seal the deal. This is where the superdeledates will come in to play. And all things considered, Hillary probbaly does have more popular votes than Obama.
I make no bones about it, I want the Democrats to lose in November and there was a time when I though Hillary would guaruntee that loss, but that's not true anymore. Hillary pulls in Ohio and Florida while Obama doesn't. She also pulls in WV and Kentucky. Now the liberal elite may call this white racism, but how come it's okay for 93% of blacks to vote for Obama, but somehow wrong when 20% of whites in these two states say that race plays a factor for them. The context in which race plays a factor was never explained. Obama's life experiences and culture is far different from that of Appalachia. Hillary "claims" to be from Arkansas which has much the same as WV, Kentucky and others. If the democrats really want to win the white house, their best best and almost sure thing in Clinton. There is nothing the Republicans can do to her that would change the landscape. This is not true with Obama and all signs point to him losing in November. Don't get me wrong, I'm not gonna claim to be saddened by this, but as an objective observer and student of political science, it boggles my mind why the party and its members would support Obama over Hillary. I guess ignorance really is bliss.
Re: Bill Clinton says "cover up" regarding Hillary's chances
Hillary pulls in Ohio and Florida while Obama doesn't.
Yep. Saw that same thing on those electoral college scenarios I mentioned in the McCain thread. There's like two or three different scenarios where Hillary can beat McCain. Obama requires pie in the sky Florida just to try and win.
