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Axl S
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

Axl S wrote:

My understanding is that the "1999 Demos" that leaked in 06 came from a tape/CD that contained CITR, IRS, TWAT, HS, Atlas & Prostitute and that the versions of HS, Atlas & Prostitute from that source circulated for years since that Mid 00s timeframe.

It is a real shame that those who got the 2019 Zutaut Discs dropped the ball. Some of what was on there may have been trade worthy - who knows maybe it did happen and those folk are keeping quiet and holding on to those tracks too.

Shacklermyrye
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I like atlas more than most id love to hear an early version

Axl S
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Axl S wrote:
Shacklermyrye wrote:

https://we.tl/t-aJn0ZOt1mI i believe this is the cover for that tape. no atlas or prostitute

Then I was lied to! When did this emerge?

Shacklermyrye
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

Axl S wrote:
Shacklermyrye wrote:

https://we.tl/t-aJn0ZOt1mI i believe this is the cover for that tape. no atlas or prostitute

Then I was lied to! When did this emerge?

Ive had it for awhile I forget it's origin, also to be fair I do not know that it's real but it looks it to me. I can certainly believe People had Atlas and prostitute back then though.
I believe that tape is where the first version of Catcher came from

James
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James wrote:
ClaudeF wrote:
FlashFlood wrote:

If I’m Axl, I’d want the original The General out there before the Slash/Duff version. Have your cake and eat it.

Damned right. I want the original, too.

As Detective Columbo, my mom’s favorite TV character, used to say, just one more thing:

“It is widely assumed that I’m likely to have access to more leaks. I don’t. I’m not a hoarder, and I don’t care to have anything I can’t share. I know that there are about ten more Guns N’ Roses songs floating around among outsiders, but I forget the working titles that I had been given, and I forget the name of one guy I met that had them. I’m not just saying that; I really do forget these details. I didn’t care, because they did me no good. What I’ve heard left me somewhat impressed, as I recall, but I’ve heard no new songs more than once, and none all the way through. I can barely remember how they went. I do not have a photographic memory.”

The second disc of Chinese Democracy is circulating.

How do we hear it? What will it take?

These are direct questions to those who have already sat on the tracks for a decade.

I'm pretty damn sure there was a second skwerl disc...sounds like this was quickly retconned.

Either way...he mentions enough songs for the second disc.

Yeah... CD II has been circulating for eons... almost as long as CD.


Jarmo from the GNR fansite Here Today… Gone To Hell came across news of the leak. He immediately notified Fernando Santos, who checked it out, and then did a Whois lookup on Antiquiet.com to get my phone number so he could talk tough to me.”

It's funny and pathetic when one of the people who had already heard everything goes and tattletales because he doesn't believe the lowly plebs are worthy of listening to what he was already listening to.

Hell...he's still doing it! He criticizes anyone getting impatient for new material.


Yeah there's a shit ton of discs...many obviously overlapping.

Don't forget the "Classic Rock disc". They got to hear a disc containing Atlas Shrugged and Silkworms.


Some of what was on there may have been trade worthy - who knows maybe it did happen and those folk are keeping quiet and holding on to those tracks too.

Oh there was definitely more to that leak.

Hell...the Chairman even admitted this with the "more rasp" line.

There was also other trades going on at the same time.

Shacklermyrye
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

James wrote:
ClaudeF wrote:
FlashFlood wrote:

If I’m Axl, I’d want the original The General out there before the Slash/Duff version. Have your cake and eat it.

Damned right. I want the original, too.

As Detective Columbo, my mom’s favorite TV character, used to say, just one more thing:

“It is widely assumed that I’m likely to have access to more leaks. I don’t. I’m not a hoarder, and I don’t care to have anything I can’t share. I know that there are about ten more Guns N’ Roses songs floating around among outsiders, but I forget the working titles that I had been given, and I forget the name of one guy I met that had them. I’m not just saying that; I really do forget these details. I didn’t care, because they did me no good. What I’ve heard left me somewhat impressed, as I recall, but I’ve heard no new songs more than once, and none all the way through. I can barely remember how they went. I do not have a photographic memory.”

The second disc of Chinese Democracy is circulating.

How do we hear it? What will it take?

These are direct questions to those who have already sat on the tracks for a decade.

I'm pretty damn sure there was a second skwerl disc...sounds like this was quickly retconned.

Either way...he mentions enough songs for the second disc.

Yeah... CD II has been circulating for eons... almost as long as CD.


Jarmo from the GNR fansite Here Today… Gone To Hell came across news of the leak. He immediately notified Fernando Santos, who checked it out, and then did a Whois lookup on Antiquiet.com to get my phone number so he could talk tough to me.”

It's funny and pathetic when one of the people who had already heard everything goes and tattletales because he doesn't believe the lowly plebs are worthy of listening to what he was already listening to.

Hell...he's still doing it! He criticizes anyone getting impatient for new material.


Yeah there's a shit ton of discs...many obviously overlapping.

Don't forget the "Classic Rock disc". They got to hear a disc containing Atlas Shrugged and Silkworms.


Some of what was on there may have been trade worthy - who knows maybe it did happen and those folk are keeping quiet and holding on to those tracks too.

Oh there was definitely more to that leak.

Hell...the Chairman even admitted this with the "more rasp" line.

There was also other trades going on at the same time.

I think the Classic rock situation was same as rolling stone, they were played songs in person but not allowed to keep the discs

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James
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

James wrote:
Shacklermyrye wrote:
Axl S wrote:
Shacklermyrye wrote:

https://we.tl/t-aJn0ZOt1mI i believe this is the cover for that tape. no atlas or prostitute

Then I was lied to! When did this emerge?

Ive had it for awhile I forget it's origin, also to be fair I do not know that it's real but it looks it to me. I can certainly believe People had Atlas and prostitute back then though.
I believe that tape is where the first version of Catcher came from

I mentioned this before...

This is why the Catcher leak wasn't supposed to happen. Its leak would highlight the fact there's more unheard songs. The 9 second clip that got out was only to be used as trade bait.

The community went crazy over it, wouldn't stop the insanity, and a few weeks later they went ahead and leaked it begrudgingly.


It is NOT a coincidence that the next trade bait clip that surfaced was Hard School/Checkmate....and need I remind everyone how quick that shit got shut down?

In hindsight I think if that had leaked in full, it might have caused a chain reaction...which is why it didn't happen.

Shacklermyrye
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https://web.archive.org/web/20140820091 … 12_98.html
Looks like Harschool does go back to Slash days if this is to be believed...

    March 12th 1998
New GN'R song out on March 20th ?

Yesterday a friend told me that a new song by GN'R (probably not a cover) will be released on the 20th of March. This previously unreleased song will appear on the soundtrack for the Jackie Chan movie "A Nice Guy". The song was recorded before Slash left the band.

True or false? We'll have the answer soon...

source: "Tver" (a GN'R fan)

Shacklermyrye
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

James wrote:
Shacklermyrye wrote:
Axl S wrote:

Then I was lied to! When did this emerge?

Ive had it for awhile I forget it's origin, also to be fair I do not know that it's real but it looks it to me. I can certainly believe People had Atlas and prostitute back then though.
I believe that tape is where the first version of Catcher came from

I mentioned this before...

This is why the Catcher leak wasn't supposed to happen. Its leak would highlight the fact there's more unheard songs. The 9 second clip that got out was only to be used as trade bait.

The community went crazy over it, wouldn't stop the insanity, and a few weeks later they went ahead and leaked it begrudgingly.


It is NOT a coincidence that the next trade bait clip that surfaced was Hard School/Checkmate....and need I remind everyone how quick that shit got shut down?

In hindsight I think if that had leaked in full, it might have caused a chain reaction...which is why it didn't happen.

DJ razz if i remember right. All his blogs about it are still online on the wayback machine somewhere. I think I re-read them last year.

James
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

James wrote:

One more thing on that subject (CITR-Checkmate clips)....


They realized that they were allowing too many people access to these clips to shop around for more tracks. Instead of acquiring more tracks under the table with these clips....they started getting leaked instead.

After that fiasco...they stopped using other people for this and kept it in their inner circle.

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