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- Shacklermyrye
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
Shacklermyrye wrote:who can tell me if they remember this...?
"and they say the stars don't look the same, I may have changed yet I have my soul to claim"
I know it was allegedly written by the same guy who posted the lyrics to Sorry before it was released although that's not entirely proven I don't think.
I havn't thought about this for years but If they are real lyrics, surely the word soul would suggest Soulmonster? If I remember right the same person was the first to mention In This Grave
I think that the word ''soul'' is too generic to think that the lyrics are from Soul Monster but It is an option for sure.
Also In This Grave is something that I have not listened in all this years and I think It has not been discussed anywhere, was this poster from mygnrforum or from other forum that has been deleted??
the thread I posted before links to a thread about in on Mygnr, but i will try to look for the original threads next week.
With regards to the soul lyric...Its true that many band have song names that are not mentioned in the lyrics but if you look at AFD for example I dont think there is a single song where the name of the track is not mentioned in the lyrics of its song at some point. With CD off the top of my head Shacklers doesn't and maybe one other song but in general words in the lyrics appear in the name of the song somewhere.
Now obviously it says "soul" and not "soulmonster" but i dont think its a huge stretch especially if the song in question wasn't called soulmonster yet but Evil presly and the monster of soul
- Shacklermyrye
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
The brief clip from 2006/2007 … was that an instrumental with a soundbyte of the Hindenburg reporter saying, “Oh, the humanity”?
I'm not too sure although that does ring a bell to be fair.
See this is what i mean though, we should have listed this stuff. I do remember that the clip i thought years later may have been Thyme was awful quality & sounded like it was ripped from a casette tape.
There was another that had sort of tribal sounding drums and an atmospheric sound, was that the Oh the humanity one? The audio sample you mention was taken from the crashing of the Hindenburg, it's the exact sort of sample Brain would have put on something in retrospect.
Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
the response they get is usually "give us a source or it's bullshit"
I definitely remember that.
In defense of those saying it, this was the era of the fake insiders. They constantly popped up. Even banning them didn't slow down their spread.
Yeah...legit people probably became collateral damage during those years.
The fan base became so jaded as the years passed by that you were skeptical of everything.
years later we now know that most of the unreleased stuff didn't have vocals at all anyway. If someone had posted a clip of Devious Bastard in 2004, nobody would have believed them for a second that it was real.
This is a great observation.
It's a good example of how much damage fake insiders/leakers really do to a community. Hell...they did so much damage that the Razz leak of the Checkmate clip(Hard School) caused half the fan base to question its authenticity.
Instrumentals didn't have a chance.
Because I think there is real stuff in some of that people just didn't believe
I agree.
The fake album covers, liner notes, and track lists should've been archived as well... specifically the ones from 2002-05...when Axl had mentioned all that stuff was ready.
Is demolition the same guy who first posted about Blood In the Water on CD.com?
Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
The brief clip from 2006/2007 … was that an instrumental with a soundbyte of the Hindenburg reporter saying, “Oh, the humanity”?
Holy shit...I remember this.
Not from 2006-07 but from the early 2000s on Limewire/Kazaa.
It was about 30-60 seconds.
- Shacklermyrye
- Rep: 14
Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
the response they get is usually "give us a source or it's bullshit"
I definitely remember that.
In defense of those saying it, this was the era of the fake insiders. They constantly popped up. Even banning them didn't slow down their spread.
Yeah...legit people probably became collateral damage during those years.
The fan base became so jaded as the years passed by that you were skeptical of everything.
years later we now know that most of the unreleased stuff didn't have vocals at all anyway. If someone had posted a clip of Devious Bastard in 2004, nobody would have believed them for a second that it was real.
This is a great observation.
It's a good example of how much damage fake insiders/leakers really do to a community. Hell...they did so much damage that the Razz leak of the Checkmate clip(Hard School) caused half the fan base to question its authenticity.
Instrumentals didn't have a chance.
Because I think there is real stuff in some of that people just didn't believe
I agree.
The fake album covers, liner notes, and track lists should've been archived as well... specifically the ones from 2002-05...when Axl had mentioned all that stuff was ready.
Is demolition the same guy who first posted about Blood In the Water on CD.com?
Thanks.. not too sure about the BITW guy i'll look into it though
- Shacklermyrye
- Rep: 14
Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
ClaudeF wrote:The brief clip from 2006/2007 … was that an instrumental with a soundbyte of the Hindenburg reporter saying, “Oh, the humanity”?
Holy shit...I remember this.
Not from 2006-07 but from the early 2000s on Limewire/Kazaa.
It was about 30-60 seconds.
There we go the fuckin frostwire days, i think you could be right actually. it was an early one
Remember we didn't know that brain was throwing old news reports or movie clip samples over things at the time. The first clue of that was Better Gone from the USB stick then the ITW remix, later on Devious Bastard, Quicksong ect. we didnt know that untill years later.
And that hindenburg clip fits in completely with the sort of thing he would use. Old and probably copyright free
Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
Dani_1455 wrote:Shacklermyrye wrote:who can tell me if they remember this...?
"and they say the stars don't look the same, I may have changed yet I have my soul to claim"
I know it was allegedly written by the same guy who posted the lyrics to Sorry before it was released although that's not entirely proven I don't think.
I havn't thought about this for years but If they are real lyrics, surely the word soul would suggest Soulmonster? If I remember right the same person was the first to mention In This Grave
I think that the word ''soul'' is too generic to think that the lyrics are from Soul Monster but It is an option for sure.
Also In This Grave is something that I have not listened in all this years and I think It has not been discussed anywhere, was this poster from mygnrforum or from other forum that has been deleted??
the thread I posted before links to a thread about in on Mygnr, but i will try to look for the original threads next week.
With regards to the soul lyric...Its true that many band have song names that are not mentioned in the lyrics but if you look at AFD for example I dont think there is a single song where the name of the track is not mentioned in the lyrics of its song at some point. With CD off the top of my head Shacklers doesn't and maybe one other song but in general words in the lyrics appear in the name of the song somewhere.
Now obviously it says "soul" and not "soulmonster" but i dont think its a huge stretch especially if the song in question wasn't called soulmonster yet but Evil presly and the monster of soul
Probably is from Soul Monster as you said, in the link there are some interesting quoteds and I found just like a jam that GNR did in 2006 of 3 minutes that people speculate about It was If The World but listening It to now It is not for sure and seems like a piano song we don't know yet!
- Shacklermyrye
- Rep: 14
Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
the response they get is usually "give us a source or it's bullshit"
years later we now know that most of the unreleased stuff didn't have vocals at all anyway. If someone had posted a clip of Devious Bastard in 2004, nobody would have believed them for a second that it was real.
This is a great observation.
It's a good example of how much damage fake insiders/leakers really do to a community. Hell...they did so much damage that the Razz leak of the Checkmate clip(Hard School) caused half the fan base to question its authenticity.
Instrumentals didn't have a chance.
Traders back then wouldn't even give you the time of day if what you had didn't have lyrics. Who knows what they turned there back on because of that rule
- Shacklermyrye
- Rep: 14
Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?
Shacklermyrye wrote:Dani_1455 wrote:I think that the word ''soul'' is too generic to think that the lyrics are from Soul Monster but It is an option for sure.
Also In This Grave is something that I have not listened in all this years and I think It has not been discussed anywhere, was this poster from mygnrforum or from other forum that has been deleted??
the thread I posted before links to a thread about in on Mygnr, but i will try to look for the original threads next week.
With regards to the soul lyric...Its true that many band have song names that are not mentioned in the lyrics but if you look at AFD for example I dont think there is a single song where the name of the track is not mentioned in the lyrics of its song at some point. With CD off the top of my head Shacklers doesn't and maybe one other song but in general words in the lyrics appear in the name of the song somewhere.
Now obviously it says "soul" and not "soulmonster" but i dont think its a huge stretch especially if the song in question wasn't called soulmonster yet but Evil presly and the monster of soul
Probably is from Soul Monster as you said, in the link there are some interesting quoteds and I found just like a jam that GNR did in 2006 of 3 minutes that people speculate about It was If The World but listening It to now It is not for sure and seems like a piano song we don't know yet!
lol By freak chance i was doing some work on remastering the piano moving jam a few weeks ago. great floyd vibe to it. Some people believe its Seven but it's not. The tempo is completely wrong
