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Re: Will the next single be something we've heard already?
He makes an album, wants to release it. Record company says no, we won't support it. It's not good enough.
Buckethead comes in, inspires Axl to some degree, makes new stuff.
What happens after that I don't know, but it seems clear the label rejected the album for a reason. They wanted more hits or a reunion. Axl doesn't appear to have written any hits in this period so perhaps the limbo is just that. When Azoff came in they released a leaks album to cash in. Guess the label just decided to cut their losses at that point.
I'm not sure this constant Axl tinkering had so much with not wanting to release it. Rather it is lacking ideas to come up with something the label is willing to fund with a big promotional campaign. If Axl could just release it at any time and was ready to do just that in 99 what exactly is keeping him from doing that at some later point? The material added by Buckethead can't exactly have made the album worse in Axl's estimation.
- TheSundanceKid
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Re: Will the next single be something we've heard already?
If they do a proper release I'll buy any new single.
I want an album though.
- Tortilla_Man
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Re: Will the next single be something we've heard already?
No UYI Box til Locked N Loaded boxes sell out
No "New" Single til Hard Skool Singles sell out
- davegnfnr2k
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Re: Will the next single be something we've heard already?
His vision of the album did not end in 2000. Jesus Dave, these are your thoughts. He was adding shit to the album right up until he turned it in.
You’re in denial that this was what Axl wanted to release, and you’re blaming it on Caram for your disappointment. He was still actively working on the album well after 2006. The label did not demand him continue working in it. They literally cut off his funding to get him to stop. CD, as it was released, was his vision. He could have released it in 02-03, HE said they weren’t done. Anyone who worked with him would have had issues with his direction and demands to make it so dense.
Axl was not hands off, he did not hand it off to Caram. This was his baby. I honestly don’t know how else to explain it to you.
The only one in denial here is you and you keep ignoring history. Axl turned in an album around 99, that was his vision. End of story. Carams cuts of the songs suck. You can defend him all you want but the songs got worse and worse while he was working on them. The clipping on CD final album is all on him, not Axl. The amount of clipping on CD is insane. But sure keep acting like Axl wanted all that clipping on the final album LMAO
We are done. This is getting sad for you.
Re: Will the next single be something we've heard already?
If this, then that…again, everyone was at fault from the label to management to the engineers/producers, and ultimately Axl.
The only people not at fault were all the new Gnr musicians who gave everything they had to make a GNR worthy album. Those guys and the fans got fucked. With the Best Buy deal CEO Rose parachuted out of the mess….the other guys were not so fortunate.
Re: Will the next single be something we've heard already?
Ultimately it is Axl’s show and has been Axl’s show since the early 90s.
If Axl really didn’t approve of Caram’s work it simply wouldn’t have made the final cut and Caram wouldn’t still be involved.
The fact that Caram is still involved almost 20 years later speaks to that Axl is fine with his mixing.
- davegnfnr2k
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Re: Will the next single be something we've heard already?
Ultimately it is Axl’s show and has been Axl’s show since the early 90s.
If Axl really didn’t approve of Caram’s work it simply wouldn’t have made the final cut and Caram wouldn’t still be involved.
The fact that Caram is still involved almost 20 years later speaks to that Axl is fine with his mixing.
Axl can like Caram's mixes all he wants, it still doesn't change the fact that Caram is a hack and his mixes are by far the worst out of all the mixes. There is no defending all of the clipping in the CD album versions that is all on Caram. Also Axl loves yes men, that is why people like him and Team Brazi are still around. Now I know no one is going to say team brazil does a great job and that is why Axl keeps them around.
