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mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:
James wrote:

The country has been overdue for a maverick since 2008. It's unfortunate that the era was wasted on Obama...and then Trump.

Only another Teddy Roosevelt is capable of saving us.

What a strange take. When was the last good president then? Bc W was just a continuation of daddy and daddy was just more Reagan.

Surely you didn’t like Carter because you don’t like Biden.

You’ve never said anything positive about the Clintons.

Nixon was a real POS.

mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

What's Teddy Roosevelt going to do when Congress is utterly beholden to special interests and the media is their extended enforcement arm?

The only way Trump was going to get anything done is if he'd declare himself a tyrant and start a civil war.

Congress has literally done nothing for decades. Isn’t that how the system was supposed to work?

mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:

Sure…tout the outsider all you want…but Trump was nothing more than a government sponsored infomercial.

Smoking Guns
 Rep: 330 

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Smoking Guns wrote:

Policy wise Bush senior was good, Clinton was pretty damn good. Trump was excellent.

Obama was bad, Carter was worse, Biden is an absolute dumpster fire

misterID
 Rep: 476 

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misterID wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
James wrote:

The country has been overdue for a maverick since 2008. It's unfortunate that the era was wasted on Obama...and then Trump.

Only another Teddy Roosevelt is capable of saving us.

What a strange take. When was the last good president then? Bc W was just a continuation of daddy and daddy was just more Reagan.

Surely you didn’t like Carter because you don’t like Biden.

You’ve never said anything positive about the Clintons.

Nixon was a real POS.

Nixon started the EPA, ended the Vietnam war, expanded civil rights protections for women and Native Americans, nearly passed universal healthcare, which was sabotaged by that piece of shit Ted Kennedy, and wanted to subsidize the wages of the working poor -- a form of ubi. Nixon was a far better President than JFK, who literally stole the presidency from him.

Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:
misterID wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
James wrote:

The country has been overdue for a maverick since 2008. It's unfortunate that the era was wasted on Obama...and then Trump.

Only another Teddy Roosevelt is capable of saving us.

What a strange take. When was the last good president then? Bc W was just a continuation of daddy and daddy was just more Reagan.

Surely you didn’t like Carter because you don’t like Biden.

You’ve never said anything positive about the Clintons.

Nixon was a real POS.

Nixon started the EPA, ended the Vietnam war, expanded civil rights protections for women and Native Americans, nearly passed universal healthcare, which was sabotaged by that piece of shit Ted Kennedy, and wanted to subsidize the wages of the working poor -- a form of ubi. Nixon was a far better President than JFK, who literally stole the presidency from him.

Nixon had potential to be an all time great. Super intelligent guy.

mitchejw
 Rep: 131 

Re: Current Events Thread

mitchejw wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Policy wise Bush senior was good, Clinton was pretty damn good. Trump was excellent.

Obama was bad, Carter was worse, Biden is an absolute dumpster fire

Trump left this country as it was burning to the ground and felt the need to make it worse on Jan. 6th.

Trump was an abysmal failure. All smoke and mirrors.

mitchejw
 Rep: 131 

Re: Current Events Thread

mitchejw wrote:
misterID wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
James wrote:

The country has been overdue for a maverick since 2008. It's unfortunate that the era was wasted on Obama...and then Trump.

Only another Teddy Roosevelt is capable of saving us.

What a strange take. When was the last good president then? Bc W was just a continuation of daddy and daddy was just more Reagan.

Surely you didn’t like Carter because you don’t like Biden.

You’ve never said anything positive about the Clintons.

Nixon was a real POS.

Nixon started the EPA, ended the Vietnam war, expanded civil rights protections for women and Native Americans, nearly passed universal healthcare, which was sabotaged by that piece of shit Ted Kennedy, and wanted to subsidize the wages of the working poor -- a form of ubi. Nixon was a far better President than JFK, who literally stole the presidency from him.

You need to check your history on ending Vietnam.

Amusing that you think dropping more bombs than anyone and escalating war is a means to ending it.

Most historians point to the end of Vietnam as being 1975. Nixon was long gone by then.

misterID
 Rep: 476 

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misterID wrote:

Dude, he ended JFK’s war and there’s no way to dispute that. Just like Obama “escalated” Iraq and Afghanistan when he promised to end it. It’s pretty complicated inheriting someone else’s war.

slashsfro
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slashsfro wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Policy wise Bush senior was good, Clinton was pretty damn good. Trump was excellent.

Obama was bad, Carter was worse, Biden is an absolute dumpster fire

Trump left this country as it was burning to the ground and felt the need to make it worse on Jan. 6th.

Trump was an abysmal failure. All smoke and mirrors.

Yeah, as much as I dislike Bush Jr, he had at least stood for something or had some policy ideas.  Trump just went with what the wind blew at that day and total chaos and clusterfuck. 

On Nixon, I'll just say that the personal demons overshadow whatever good he did (and they should).  I just don't think there's anyway around Watergate with him.  You can argue he's underated and I won't disagree with that.  But he'll always be amongst the list of worst presidents because of how his presidency ended.

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