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Dude, that's not the same thing to what's being claimed. People are suggesting that he'll use the military to install a dictatorship. He's fully in his rights to contest an election, but he needs proof. I was actually going to use Gore as an example, there's a legal remedy. Gore gave up because... Well, he's Gore. These are two VERY different things that are being suggested.
For Goddsakes, I even wanted Hilary to contest the election. That's not the same as not accepting the results and staying in office. That is impossible. We have Federal Marshals who have the responsibility of removing a former president from office if that happens.
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buzzsaw wrote:mitchejw wrote:Pot meet kettle...
Have a nice day buzz
The difference between you and me son is that I call it like it is; you call it like you want it to be and attack anyone who has the nerve not to share your vision. You are a triggered liberal and nothing more. The only lies you can catch me on are the ones where you make up what you think/wish I said only to be corrected with what I actually said. But then, you never let the truth stop you from posting, do you?
Lol son...guy thinks he’s stone cold Steve Austin...
I ain’t your son...just your superior...
Have a nice day!
Not even in your dreams son. Fleas look down on you.
Oh yeah, reported.
Re: US Politics Thread
mitchejw wrote:buzzsaw wrote:The difference between you and me son is that I call it like it is; you call it like you want it to be and attack anyone who has the nerve not to share your vision. You are a triggered liberal and nothing more. The only lies you can catch me on are the ones where you make up what you think/wish I said only to be corrected with what I actually said. But then, you never let the truth stop you from posting, do you?
Lol son...guy thinks he’s stone cold Steve Austin...
I ain’t your son...just your superior...
Have a nice day!
Not even in your dreams son. Fleas look down on you.
Oh yeah, reported.
Snowflake
Re: US Politics Thread
Dude, that's not the same thing to what's being claimed. People are suggesting that he'll use the military to install a dictatorship. He's fully in his rights to contest an election, but he needs proof. I was actually going to use Gore as an example, there's a legal remedy. Gore gave up because... Well, he's Gore. These are two VERY different things that are being suggested.
For Goddsakes, I even wanted Hilary to contest the election. That's not the same as not accepting the results and staying in office. That is impossible. We have Federal Marshals who have the responsibility of removing a former president from office if that happens.
Well, the fear is of the somewhere in between. None of us here believe trump will just choose to stay in office via dictatorship. However, if he loses Ohio, PA, CO, Mich by 2 million votes each or something, yet 'contests it', then thats a light way of doing the same thing. Ballparking 2 mil for context, but I think FL in 2000 was something like 35,000 votes or something, with many set aside for 'hanging chads'. If its THAT close thats one thing, but with this guy he'd do it for over a mil.
In hindsight Hillary should've contested the election. Problem would be it would show a link from the Obama WH to her campaign, by informing them that when the FBI/CIA was investigating Russia for the DNC hack, Kushner, Flynn & Stone et al popped up into their investigation.
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High unemployment, numerous industries shutting down for a looong time, people spending money drastically different, no way a recession doesn't come.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/a-do … 28980.html
It's the 70s all over again. Nixon gone, Carter inherits a bad economy at a bad time, just get us thru the next 4 years and we'll hit the reset button, both GOP & DNC. Personally I'd be ok if he chose Condi Rice and I think he should. Bring the country together & have someone experienced & competant in as VP.
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150 pages in and Boltons books a trip. Finished the chapter on trump attending the NATO summit in 2018? While in discussions for the NK Kim Jung Un meeting, and he's leaving to meet Putin (I think when trump said 'I believe him' can't wait for Boltons opinion on that). Funny, there was a pact in NATO that each country would commit to 4% of GDP going to defense spending, but the countries have become lax in recent years, especially after th 2008 global recession. trump kept interchanging it from 4% of GDP to defense, to thinking each country pay 4% into some NATO fund. He kept getting corrected, and Bolton says he thinks it got across to trump after many explainations, but when trump was at the table he kept making a stink about it, and saying 'Maybe the US will start contributing less' whcih makes no sense. There is a small fund for NATO to pay in, but its nowhere near 4% of GDP. They actually used the Kavanaugh hearing as a reason not to pull out of NATO to him.
Overall Kelly, Mattis & Bolton all really seem sick of it and find it difficult (Bolton says at one point he wonders how he made it this far, and he's probably 6-9 months in). Pompeo kinda is what he is, sorta snide/cocky yes man to trump in public, but he jokes to the 4 of them on occasion about things being unbelievable, or that trumps really not grasping many concepts and he'll laugh about it with them, but seems once he's at the podium he can turn on the coverup mode. Kinda makes sense, I always wondered about him. Not much insight into either Pence or Melania yet, although once or twice Pence seemed to have been shut out of meetings and issues and such, although seemingly he'd be more capable than trump on issues.
With trump, there's no there there.
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150 pages in and Boltons books a trip. Finished the chapter on trump attending the NATO summit in 2018? While in discussions for the NK Kim Jung Un meeting, and he's leaving to meet Putin (I think when trump said 'I believe him' can't wait for Boltons opinion on that). Funny, there was a pact in NATO that each country would commit to 4% of GDP going to defense spending, but the countries have become lax in recent years, especially after th 2008 global recession. trump kept interchanging it from 4% of GDP to defense, to thinking each country pay 4% into some NATO fund. He kept getting corrected, and Bolton says he thinks it got across to trump after many explainations, but when trump was at the table he kept making a stink about it, and saying 'Maybe the US will start contributing less' whcih makes no sense. There is a small fund for NATO to pay in, but its nowhere near 4% of GDP. They actually used the Kavanaugh hearing as a reason not to pull out of NATO to him.
Overall Kelly, Mattis & Bolton all really seem sick of it and find it difficult (Bolton says at one point he wonders how he made it this far, and he's probably 6-9 months in). Pompeo kinda is what he is, sorta snide/cocky yes man to trump in public, but he jokes to the 4 of them on occasion about things being unbelievable, or that trumps really not grasping many concepts and he'll laugh about it with them, but seems once he's at the podium he can turn on the coverup mode. Kinda makes sense, I always wondered about him. Not much insight into either Pence or Melania yet, although once or twice Pence seemed to have been shut out of meetings and issues and such, although seemingly he'd be more capable than trump on issues.
With trump, there's no there there.
I wish everyone would stop being so afraid of him. Trump is a one trick pony. I'd love the opportunity to tell him he doesn't seem to grasp any of these concepts.
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We can survive four years of Trump like we just did.
You're naive.
Trump's assault on our constitution, the rule of law, democracy and the first amendment is pushing us into 1984 territory. Right now he's sending federal troops into "liberal run cities" after their local governments have explicitly asked him not to. We're seeing unmarked cars and unidentified, military style forces kidnap Americans without due process in cities across the country as they exercise their first amendment rights. I'm watching our president lie about the "massive voter fraud" that takes place with mail in ballots.
You came here to celebrate when his corrupt AG announced that the Mueller investigation found Trump innocent. You were easily duped by such obvious abject corruption and blatant lies. Most knew Burr's claims were false, but not you. You took that as a moment to scold everybody that they'd been clutching pearls for the previous 6 months.
So it's either naivete or you're too concerned about placating the authoritarian sycophants here out of fear they will bully you. Sticking safely to this "both sides" bullshit narrative.
