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Re: US Politics Thread
Bernie won't deliver on anything. They honestly believe there will be a revolution. He wants to take over the Democratic party, and change it to the Bernie party. He doesn't have the support for a general election. He's a niche candidate who fell apart with Hillary, who beat him by millions of votes. This is Bernie territory right now.
People were voting for Trump, coming out and lying to pollsters who they voted for. I see that happening again.
Re: US Politics Thread
Bernie won't deliver on anything. They honestly believe there will be a revolution. He wants to take over the Democratic party, and change it to the Bernie party. He doesn't have the support for a general election. He's a niche candidate who fell apart with Hillary, who beat him by millions of votes. This is Bernie territory right now.
People were voting for Trump, coming out and lying to pollsters who they voted for. I see that happening again.
Like I said...this is Trumps too lose and it pains me to say...but there are two things he could deliver on that I think would matter.
1) Absolving student loan debt
2) Healthcare
And again it's not about what delivers...it's what he promises and tries to appeal to...
Try this on for size...what if Bernie becomes to the sure nomination in like...June....in July he does the unthinkable and officially declares as a Democrat.
Could that heal the party?
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Re: US Politics Thread
Trump is pivoting to Health Care. Democrats refused to even propose single payer in 2009. He's going to be running on a better version of the ACA that allows for reasonable plans, no details given. Ultimately, it could lead to a compromise with the House in 2021 that nixes the mandate, but expands coverage for lower income through medicaid. That's the only politically solvent situation. Toss in Ivanka's maternity leave bill for good will, and you have a tenable bill that can get through both houses.
The Democrats can't really wheel anyone out to say "this person was fucked by Trump" on healthcare. It's all hypothetical. No one wants to negotiate, so Democrats are pleading worse case scenario to voters, should no one act and SCOTUS rule a very specific way. So when you balance what Trump is saying, versus Bernie, it becomes a hard pill to swallow. Sure, the moderates are more appealing on Health Care to the masses, but what are they going to say that is substantially different than what Trump wants? I'm genuinely asking.
The only realistic solution to SS is to increase taxes. But first you'd need legislation to get through both houses. It's unlikely the Democrats capture the Senate, about as likely as the Republicans getting the House. So you have to be realistic on what can get through, even if you end up with a total sweep, cause of the filibuster. And I don't know how you get a solvent bill to fund SS through taxation.
We seem not to give a fuck about the national debt anymore. As a nobody, I feel no impact or change due to the national debt. Neither party seems to give a fuck. I fully support a Warren style wealth tax, but I don't know how that gets through congress, let alone the courts. Some issues aren't solvable until it becomes a crisis.
