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Re: Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
I was always against a new trilogy. The story was told. It was done.
I approached TFA with an open mind but it turned out to be an uninteresting nostalgia trip with some good characters that were woefully underutilized. I was mad on behalf of the better movie dying to get out. This mistake pretty much set the table for E8 but it did have some good elements.
TLJ is an unredeemable abortion of a movie. It’s stupid, incoherent, and self-important.
ROS has a handful of story issues, abrupt pacing and plotting, and questionable decisions but it’s emotionally engaging and rich with humanity. But the damage was done in Episode VII, let alone the Hindenburg tier Episode VIII, and while it sticks the lending, its climax more or less should’ve been Act 3 of Episode VII.
TFA 4/10
TLJ 1/10
ROS 6/10
Flawed but merits a recommendation.
Re: Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
TLJ is an unredeemable abortion of a movie. It’s stupid, incoherent, and self-important.
At least it had character development and wasn't structured like a 90s video game.
There was an effort to at least progress the story even if they were poor choices.
Honestly I think if you take the Luke death at the end out along with the silly reversal of death scenes (which this one doubles down on) and the silly middle section on the casino planet?... it's not great, but it's not that terrible.
This just rehashed as much of Return of The Jedi as they could on this without it being a remake. There's multiple silly plot devices that make no sense and certain sections feel like a super hero film.
It's put together more by a checklist, than a script.
It's borderline Game of Thrones season 8 silly at points.
Also the pacing. It jumps swiftly from one scene to the next to skip over the story. This didn't feel like a Star Wars film at point.
Re: Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Had some hey kept Finn in a coma, didn't make Poe a moron or Luke a tool, and didn't turn Leia into Mary Poppins in space and just let her die with dignity, TLJ would have been okay (things do matter, and there are chosen ones, that's what Vader, Luke and Rey fucking were).
BTW, the ride is fantastic.
Re: Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Wagszilla wrote:TLJ is an unredeemable abortion of a movie. It’s stupid, incoherent, and self-important.
At least it had character development and wasn't structured like a video game.
I don’t entirely disagree but really the only character development was Luke and Luke in addition to not being the focus of the trilogy had questionable development at that so it’s pretty much nil.
The way everything is staged is passive and boring. Rey, join me! Why? Uhhh... because... reasons.
I like ROS but I’m not blind. It’s heavily flawed. There are gigantic plot holes and just garbage decisions.
But TLJ, despite its baby steps of progress and improvement, consists of leaps and bounds in the other direction towards gleefully terrible movie making.
Re: Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Finally saw it. Thought it was great. Didnt realize JJ directed this one till the end credits Wasnt it supposed to be a different director? Did JJ grab the reigns after TLJ went south?
Ill need to rewatch it, but i recall TLJ went nowhere in the storyline. ROS exposed this alot. Shouldve kept Laura Dern and let Leia die in 8, and Benetio Del Toro seemed to have added nothing.
It was a good film.
