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Re: Archaeological Anomalies
The Ica Stones
In the 1930s, Dr. Javier Cabrera, a medical doctor, received a gift of a strange stone from a local farmer. Dr. Cabrera was so intrigued that he collected more than 1,100 of these andesite stones, which are estimated to be between 500 and 1,500 years old and have become known collectively as the Ica Stones. The stones bear etchings, many of which are sexually graphic (which was common to the culture); some picture idols and others depict such practices as open-heart surgery and brain transplants. The most astonishing etchings, however, clearly represent dinosaurs - brontosaurs, triceratops (see photo), stegosaurus and pterosaurs. While skeptics consider the Ica Stones a hoax, their authenticity has neither been proved or disproved.
The Baghdad Battery
Today batteries can be found in any grocery, drug, convenience and department store you come across. Well, here's a battery that's 2,000 years old! Known as the Baghdad Battery, this curiosity was found in the ruins of a Parthian village believed to date back to between 248 B.C. and 226 A.D. The device consists of a 5-1/2-inch high clay vessel inside of which was a copper cylinder held in place by asphalt, and inside of that was an oxidized iron rod. Experts who examined it concluded that the device needed only to be filled with an acid or alkaline liquid to produce an electric charge. It is believed that this ancient battery might have been used for electroplating objects with gold. If so, how was this technology lost... and the battery not rediscovered for another 1,800 years?
The Antikythera Mechanism
A perplexing artifact was recovered by sponge-divers from a shipwreck in 1900 off the coast of Antikythera, a small island that lies northwest of Crete. The divers brought up from the wreck a great many marble and and bronze statues that had apparently been the ship's cargo. Among the findings was a hunk of corroded bronze that contained some kind of mechanism composed of many gears and wheels. Writing on the case indicated that it was made in 80 B.C., and many experts at first thought it was an astrolabe, an astronomer's tool. An x-ray of the mechanism, however, revealed it to be far more complex, containing a sophisticated system of differential gears. Gearing of this complexity was not known to exist until 1575! It is still unknown who constructed this amazing instrument 2,000 years ago or how the technology was lost.
The Coso Artifact
While mineral hunting in the mountains of California near Olancha during the winter of 1961, Wallace Lane, Virginia Maxey and Mike Mikesell found a rock, among many others, that they thought was a geode - a good addition for their gem shop. Upon cutting it open, however, Mikesell found an object inside that seemed to be made of white porcelain. In the center was a shaft of shiny metal. Experts estimated that, if this was a geode, it should have taken about 500,000 years for this fossil-encrusted nodule to form, yet the object inside was obviously of sophisticated human manufacture. Further investigation revealed that the porcelain was surround by a hexagonal casing, and an x-ray revealed a tiny spring at one end, like a spark plug. There's a bit of controversy around this artifact, as you can imagine. Some contend that the artifact was not inside a geode at all, but encased in hardened clay. The artifact itself has been identified by experts as a 1920s-era Champion spark plug. Unfortunately, the Coso Artifact has gone missing and cannot be thoroughly examined. Is there a natural explanation for it? Or was it found, as the discoverer claimed, inside a geode? If so, how could a 1920s sparkplug get inside a 500,000-year-old rock?
Giant Stone Balls Of Costa Rica
Workmen hacking and burning their way through the dense jungle of Costa Rica to clear an area for banana plantations in the 1930s stumbled upon some incredible objects: dozens of stone balls, many of which were perfectly spherical. They varied in size from as small as a tennis ball to an astonishing 8 feet in diameter and weighing 16 tons! Although the great stone balls are clearly man-made, it is unknown who made them, for what purpose and, most puzzling, how they achieved such spherical precision.
Impossible Fossils
Fossils, as we learned in grade school, appear in rocks that were formed many thousands of years ago. Yet there are a number of fossils that just don't make geological or historical sense. A fossil of a human handprint, for example, was found in limestone estimated to be 110 million years old. What appears to be a fossilized human finger found in the Canadian Arctic also dates back 100 to 110 million years ago. And what appears to be the fossil of a human footprint, possibly wearing a sandal, was found near Delta, Utah in a shale deposit estimated to be 300 million to 600 million years old.
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Problem is it isn't just one guy. These 'anomalies' are found all over the planet.
Who knows how much has been lost, especially in the dark ages.
To me it seems early man was influenced by something. Knowledge, inspiration, example or a general idea. You see this in that they are very advanced in some areas, whereas in others they are fairly primitive. That suggests influence of some kind. Imagine, after living in caves for millenia we suddenly start playing around with physics, mathematics, astronomy and erecting mega structures in such an awe inspiring style.
These developments literally came out of the blue in an evolutionary time scale. In fact, so does modern man.
It leaves two possibilities.
1. Man has been around much longer than we think, creating great civilizations which for some reason have been almost completely lost, except for these anomalies and the religious myths.
2. The Alien factor.
There's a picture of a structure in the middle east, which I couldn't find at the moment, where a 1500 ton whole stone block is situated on top of two pillars maybe 10-30 meters high. The stone had been quarried at least some 10-20 miles away. This structure dates back thousands of years.
In 2008 the biggest cranes can lift around 2-300 tons.
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The Baghdad Battery
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Today batteries can be found in any grocery, drug, convenience and department store you come across. Well, here's a battery that's 2,000 years old! Known as the Baghdad Battery, this curiosity was found in the ruins of a Parthian village believed to date back to between 248 B.C. and 226 A.D. The device consists of a 5-1/2-inch high clay vessel inside of which was a copper cylinder held in place by asphalt, and inside of that was an oxidized iron rod. Experts who examined it concluded that the device needed only to be filled with an acid or alkaline liquid to produce an electric charge. It is believed that this ancient battery might have been used for electroplating objects with gold. If so, how was this technology lost... and the battery not rediscovered for another 1,800 years?
The Antikythera Mechanism
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A perplexing artifact was recovered by sponge-divers from a shipwreck in 1900 off the coast of Antikythera, a small island that lies northwest of Crete. The divers brought up from the wreck a great many marble and and bronze statues that had apparently been the ship's cargo. Among the findings was a hunk of corroded bronze that contained some kind of mechanism composed of many gears and wheels. Writing on the case indicated that it was made in 80 B.C., and many experts at first thought it was an astrolabe, an astronomer's tool. An x-ray of the mechanism, however, revealed it to be far more complex, containing a sophisticated system of differential gears. Gearing of this complexity was not known to exist until 1575! It is still unknown who constructed this amazing instrument 2,000 years ago or how the technology was lost.
These are the two most interesting artifacts on the list. I've read about that battery before. Anyways, it pretty much proves that some advanced civilization(Atlantis?) existed during ancient times.
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How does it prove that? Alchemy existsed and was believed to be controled by magic, thus easily explaining why a battery could exist. If Aliens affected mankind, don't you think they would teach them a more efficient way of making a battery than the one shown?
No evidence of Atlantis exists. Depending on whom you listen to, Atlantis may have existed along the North American Coast or in the Mediterannean sea. There is no evidence of any lost civilization other than hearsay and a slight reference in Plato's Republic (it may be another one of his works, don't recall off the top of my head, and even still, no one knows if he referred to it literally or as a metaphor since he never claimed to have been there).
Why do aliens have to be involved for early civilization to make a very rudamentary discovery? The chiese had fireworks and gunpowder during the same era and are equal in complexity to this discovery.
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Where in the hell did I say aliens had anything to do with it? When batteries are being made thousands of years ago, I think its safe to say an advanced society was somewhere on the planet. Whether it was Atlantis or Cleveland makes no difference to me.
Regarding the existence of Atlantis, didn't you notice my question mark when I brought it up?
Its strange how you pick certain parts of some of my posts, add your own little spin to it, and then try to pick it apart.
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How does it prove that? Alchemy existsed and was believed to be controled by magic, thus easily explaining why a battery could exist.
It's that too. Who gave ancient man the idea of alchemy and magic? Those are pretty abstract activities.
If Aliens affected mankind, don't you think they would teach them a more efficient way of making a battery than the one shown?
Just because you're an alien don't mean you have the ability to set up plants and electronic manufacturers on Neanderthal earth, or that you'd want to. It's mostly about knowledge and the remains of it. Back engineering is also a possibility. The deluge surely destroyed a lot of equipment, if there ever were much of it in the first place.
It's basically all speculation, but it doesn't change the fact that we have all these strange artifacts.
No evidence of Atlantis exists. Depending on whom you listen to, Atlantis may have existed along the North American Coast or in the Mediterannean sea. There is no evidence of any lost civilization other than hearsay and a slight reference in Plato's Republic (it may be another one of his works, don't recall off the top of my head, and even still, no one knows if he referred to it literally or as a metaphor since he never claimed to have been there).
There's plenty of evidence that some sort of anomalous civilization were present on earth. Atlantis however...imo it doesn't have to be one place. It could just as well be a metaphor for a somewhat global society.
Why do aliens have to be involved for early civilization to make a very rudamentary discovery? The chiese had fireworks and gunpowder during the same era and are equal in complexity to this discovery.
These artifacts in them self does not point towards aliens, they're basically supporting evidence, but the written myths do. It's pretty much laid out plainly whether it's the Sumerians, Mayans, Indians, Vikings, Chinese, India etc.
On top of that comes the similarities in architecture, language and culture across the continents.
And last, if humans evolved on their own to these levels, what happened? Why did we have to start over? Imo it's more likely that somebody influenced us, not leaving too many trails. It's also possible they kept us at a low level of knowledge as to not disturb our natural evolution.
- Randall Flagg
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Where in the hell did I say aliens had anything to do with it? When batteries are being made thousands of years ago, I think its safe to say an advanced society was somewhere on the planet. Whether it was Atlantis or Cleveland makes no difference to me.
Regarding the existence of Atlantis, didn't you notice my question mark when I brought it up?
Its strange how you pick certain parts of some of my posts, add your own little spin to it, and then try to pick it apart.
I wasn't referring to you James. Take a deep breath and relax. I was referring to Polluxm's belief that humans were guided by a higher intellect in our evolution. It's not always about you.
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James Lofton wrote:Where in the hell did I say aliens had anything to do with it? When batteries are being made thousands of years ago, I think its safe to say an advanced society was somewhere on the planet. Whether it was Atlantis or Cleveland makes no difference to me.
Regarding the existence of Atlantis, didn't you notice my question mark when I brought it up?
Its strange how you pick certain parts of some of my posts, add your own little spin to it, and then try to pick it apart.
I wasn't referring to you James. Take a deep breath and relax. I was referring to Polluxm's belief that humans were guided by a higher intellect in our evolution. It's not always about you.
Then quote the proper post. The start of your post sounded like a rebuttal to mine.
I said "it proves", and then you walk in and say "how does it prove". Surely you can see why it appeared to be directed at me.
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Isn't Atlantis supposedly the Minoan civilisation, that was wiped out by a volcanic eruption? It's totally implausable that dinosaurs were around with people, but ancient technology is possible. After all, people weren't so different thousands of years ago!
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