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Mitch, let me know what’s wrong with the new NAFTA deal. I want to make sure I can refute whatever bile I come across on other forums. Is “Fuck Trump” the extent of your thorough and objective analysis?
Oh i see you can be sold the same thing in a new package and call one terrible and the other great.
Kinda like Obama’s economy.
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Randall Flagg wrote:If Canada ever invented anything, I'm sure their companies would be outraged if the US took their patents, handed it over to Bayer and paid them $.50 royalties per pill made.
Bayer is German...
With offices, research and patents in the US. None of that negates my argument though. But you knew that.
Re: US Politics Thread
TheMole wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:If Canada ever invented anything, I'm sure their companies would be outraged if the US took their patents, handed it over to Bayer and paid them $.50 royalties per pill made.
Bayer is German...
With offices, research and patents in the US. None of that negates my argument though. But you knew that.
Yes Flagg...you won an argument that only you were arguing about.
- Randall Flagg
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I’m starting to think BK shouldn’t be confirmed. Not because I care he was a douche during his youth, but because he lied about it. I had never heard about boofing, ffff, or devil’s Triangle, but when you find out what they mean, it’s obvious that teenage boys were clearly using them as they’re commonly defined.
Yes, it’s shitty accusations of rape have led to uncovering he was an asshole who drank like a fish. But he’s lied so blatantly about it, he’s lost his integrity.
He’s the judge I want on the bench, but we can’t bitch about the mental gymnastics and dirty tactics of the left, and ignore it when someone we like violates his integrity. It’s not my vote to make, but I’d vote “no”.
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I’m starting to think BK shouldn’t be confirmed. Not because I care he was a douche during his youth, but because he lied about it. I had never heard about boofing, ffff, or devil’s Triangle, but when you find out what they mean, it’s obvious that teenage boys were clearly using them as they’re commonly defined.
Yes, it’s shitty accusations of rape have led to uncovering he was an asshole who drank like a fish. But he’s lied so blatantly about it, he’s lost his integrity.
He’s the judge I want on the bench, but we can’t bitch about the mental gymnastics and dirty tactics of the left, and ignore it when someone we like violates his integrity. It’s not my vote to make, but I’d vote “no”.
It’s not the sexual predator like behavior or the entitlement...it’s the lying you just can’t stand.... to 
- Randall Flagg
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Randall Flagg wrote:I’m starting to think BK shouldn’t be confirmed. Not because I care he was a douche during his youth, but because he lied about it. I had never heard about boofing, ffff, or devil’s Triangle, but when you find out what they mean, it’s obvious that teenage boys were clearly using them as they’re commonly defined.
Yes, it’s shitty accusations of rape have led to uncovering he was an asshole who drank like a fish. But he’s lied so blatantly about it, he’s lost his integrity.
He’s the judge I want on the bench, but we can’t bitch about the mental gymnastics and dirty tactics of the left, and ignore it when someone we like violates his integrity. It’s not my vote to make, but I’d vote “no”.
It’s not the sexual predator like behavior or the entitlement...it’s the lying you just can’t stand.... to
You have any evidence to support that, or am I supposed to find Diane Feinstein credible?
Re: US Politics Thread
TheMole wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:If Canada ever invented anything, I'm sure their companies would be outraged if the US took their patents, handed it over to Bayer and paid them $.50 royalties per pill made.
Bayer is German...
With offices, research and patents in the US. None of that negates my argument though. But you knew that.
Bayer spends three times more on R&D in socialist Europe than it does in all of North America, it has 5 times more employees in the EU than in the US and Canada combined. Bayer Canada employs almost 1000 people in R&D. I'm unsure what your argument actually is, to be honest, beyond "rah-rah, 'muricah". Pharmaceuticals are a global business, the bulk of J&J's research (an example of an actual American company) is done overseas because they go where the brains are, not where the corporate tax rate is lowest.
Pharmaceutical companies choose to do business in Canada because it makes business sense for them to do so. No one is holding a gun to Ian C. Reed's head, Pfizer simply thinks Canada is a market worth being active in and therefore plays by Canadian rules.
What is your argument?
- Randall Flagg
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Randall Flagg wrote:TheMole wrote:Bayer is German...
With offices, research and patents in the US. None of that negates my argument though. But you knew that.
Bayer spends three times more on R&D in socialist Europe than it does in all of North America, it has 5 times more employees in the EU than in the US and Canada combined. Bayer Canada employs almost 1000 people in R&D. I'm unsure what your argument actually is, to be honest, beyond "rah-rah, 'muricah". Pharmaceuticals are a global business, the bulk of J&J's research (an example of an actual American company) is done overseas because they go where the brains are, not where the corporate tax rate is lowest.
Pharmaceutical companies choose to do business in Canada because it makes business sense for them to do so. No one is holding a gun to Ian C. Reed's head, Pfizer simply thinks Canada is a market worth being active in and therefore plays by Canadian rules.
What is your argument?
Maybe read my entire post instead of trying to make an argument over Bayer. I know you only pop in every few months to post at me. I appreciate it, I like having a fan. But try to stay intellectually honest.
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TheMole wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:With offices, research and patents in the US. None of that negates my argument though. But you knew that.
Bayer spends three times more on R&D in socialist Europe than it does in all of North America, it has 5 times more employees in the EU than in the US and Canada combined. Bayer Canada employs almost 1000 people in R&D. I'm unsure what your argument actually is, to be honest, beyond "rah-rah, 'muricah". Pharmaceuticals are a global business, the bulk of J&J's research (an example of an actual American company) is done overseas because they go where the brains are, not where the corporate tax rate is lowest.
Pharmaceutical companies choose to do business in Canada because it makes business sense for them to do so. No one is holding a gun to Ian C. Reed's head, Pfizer simply thinks Canada is a market worth being active in and therefore plays by Canadian rules.
What is your argument?
Maybe read my entire post instead of trying to make an argument over Bayer. I know you only pop in every few months to post at me. I appreciate it, I like having a fan. But try to stay intellectually honest.
Despite probably being the one that posts the most in this thread...and almost certainly the most words in this thread...you never have a damn thing to say. You throw around words like intellectually honest and you don't even know what it means.
I will admit that I admire your confidence...you truly believe what you say on here. But you're just a poser, man. You're constant condescension is just the icing on the cake.
You've refused to acknowledge that this deal is virtually the same thing as NAFTA...you want to focus on tiny little details that will likely have little to no effect on anyone (especially on this board)...
Mole is right...all it ever comes down to with you is rah rah, America. That's why you and Tucker are such good pals...
Tucker does the same thing too btw...in a debate with someone who disagrees with him, he focuses on some mundane detail that isn't terribly pertinent to the big picture. He does this mostly because he likes to bully people and back them into a corner. He wants them to start defending something they never set out to defend. He pushes them into an unwinnable position because he doesn't want to have an honest debate. He just wants to look smart on TV. He wants to make it appear as though he's won something.
Let me break down the big picture for you:
1) Despite tax breaks, wages ARE NOT rising.
2) Any jobs the US has supposedly gained are low paying, crap jobs.
3) This big deal Trump's made outta NAFTA could've been his biggest win, but we got NAFTA + 1, instead.
4) This policy of deporting illegals (which you claim is popular) has had no direct positive impact on anyone's quality of life.
5) We, the majority of voters, have the right to dissent any way we please.
6) Kim Jong has made Trump look foolish for about 6 months now.
7) Many arrests, indictments have been made involving many Trump associates.
8) Trump's approval ratings are the lowest of any president in the modern era (I know, you only look at the Rasmussen poll).
9) Trump's tariffs have thus far had little to no effect on what China wants to do. Furthermore, they're the exact opposite of a free market full of choice.
I mean...that's the big picture here. Things aren't going all that swell for most of us. They're going great for millionaires and billionaires, though.
But you go ahead and keep focusing on tiny details related to the pharmaceutical industry regarding patents, tax laws, and tertiary details of a trade deal that looks more like a marketing strategy change than an actual major change in a trade deal.
If we really had all this leverage that you've proclaimed, why didn't we get something significantly better? I'll answer you...it's because we never had that leverage to 'negotiate' new trade deals.
