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mitchejw wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:No, they have to announce their intent to propose the deal 90 days out from a vote. I think it’s DOA because unless I’m mistaken, you need 2/3 of the senate to ratify it. No way you get 14 Democrats to put the country ahead of partisanship.
The bill could literally raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour and Warren or Harris would state they’re voting “no” because it doesn’t do anything to assist transgender people or some other inane policy position the country loathes but resonates with the far left wackos (see abolish ICE).
Right...that's the only reason the could oppose it?
There were a lot of false promises about this when they implemented the tax cuts. Surprisingly, nothing of any real substance occurred. Sure you had a blerb here and a write up there about positive effects that occurred. But simultanerously things like Harley Davidson packing up some of their factory jobs and moving them across seas when Trump started fucking with tariffs.
If it was really that black and white and wages would raise as much as you say, it would be a no brainer. But ya know what? it ain't that straightforward.
There's a big reason that the tax cuts are no longer a talking point by incumbents.
Oh, I didn’t even know the proposal was available. Where did you read it?
Oh i'm sorry...you're right...I misread this...I thought you were saying that indeed saw the bill and it said something silly about raising minimum wage to $15/hour
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Re: US Politics Thread
Randall Flagg wrote:mitchejw wrote:My query was About procedures and rules as it pertains to Congress in the constitution. This is something that upset you greatly when Obama engaged in executive orders.
Whether it’s about immigration or trade or the economy, this is still the president acting alone and you have stated in the past when it involves Obama that you did not like that.
Right, I don’t like executive orders that should originate from congress. An EO on how the DoJ will function is fine, an EO that attempts to change the law is bad. I can’t think of any EOs Trump has issued that were at Obama’s level, except to specifically undo an EO Obama issued that any legal scholar will tell you is unconstitutional. But if you can, you can rest assured I oppose them.
But what does this have to do with EOs? The entire plan is to have Congress vote on it and not enter into a deal like Obama did with Iran.
The point is Trump made this deal on his own. He's not talking about it like it has to go through congress. He's the one who made the terms and he's the one who decided what was good about the deal and what wasn't.
You're opinions about whether or not it's a good deal are just that...your opinions.
What are you talking about. None of that is true. You’re just making shit up because you don’t have a point. You haven’t made an informed, intelligent and coherent post in weeks.
The executive branch handles diplomacy and all foreign agreements. Congress approves that action. That’s been the plan the entire time, and is the plan now. You don’t have a clue what’s being negotiated. You assume, make wild accusations, and make posts to call me out on whatever story you’ve built in your head.
Re: US Politics Thread
mitchejw wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:Right, I don’t like executive orders that should originate from congress. An EO on how the DoJ will function is fine, an EO that attempts to change the law is bad. I can’t think of any EOs Trump has issued that were at Obama’s level, except to specifically undo an EO Obama issued that any legal scholar will tell you is unconstitutional. But if you can, you can rest assured I oppose them.
But what does this have to do with EOs? The entire plan is to have Congress vote on it and not enter into a deal like Obama did with Iran.
The point is Trump made this deal on his own. He's not talking about it like it has to go through congress. He's the one who made the terms and he's the one who decided what was good about the deal and what wasn't.
You're opinions about whether or not it's a good deal are just that...your opinions.
What are you talking about. None of that is true. You’re just making shit up because you don’t have a point. You haven’t made an informed, intelligent and coherent post in weeks.
The executive branch handles diplomacy and all foreign agreements. Congress approves that action. That’s been the plan the entire time, and is the plan now. You don’t have a clue what’s being negotiated. You assume, make wild accusations, and make posts to call me out on whatever story you’ve built in your head.
I already explained...I was wrong...I misread a post.
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The Bernie guy just won the Democratic nom from Graham for Florida governor... I am stunned. I was certain she was going to be the next governor, she was the perfect candidate. Holy Cow. DeSantis is going to win. No one thought he'd get the Republican nomination. Dems just lost South Florida, the panhandle, rural Florida and holy shit, they might have just lost Central Florida with this pick (Florida Hispanics are fervent anti socialist/communist).
If they just nominated a socialist over a moderate woman.... Buckle up.
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The Bernie guy just won the Democratic nom from Graham for Florida governor... I am stunned. I was certain she was going to be the next governor, she was the perfect candidate. Holy Cow. DeSantis is going to win. No one thought he'd get the Republican nomination. Dems just lost South Florida, the panhandle, rural Florida and holy shit, they might have just lost Central Florida with this pick (Florida Hispanics are fervent anti socialist/communist).
If they just nominated a socialist over a moderate woman.... Buckle up.
Everyone in the country should pay attention to this race. This is Florida. THE swing state. A surrogate for Trump versus a surrogate for Sanders. This will tell us how 2020 will go. Democrats go to the far left at their own peril.
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misterID wrote:The Bernie guy just won the Democratic nom from Graham for Florida governor... I am stunned. I was certain she was going to be the next governor, she was the perfect candidate. Holy Cow. DeSantis is going to win. No one thought he'd get the Republican nomination. Dems just lost South Florida, the panhandle, rural Florida and holy shit, they might have just lost Central Florida with this pick (Florida Hispanics are fervent anti socialist/communist).
If they just nominated a socialist over a moderate woman.... Buckle up.
Everyone in the country should pay attention to this race. This is Florida. THE swing state. A surrogate for Trump versus a surrogate for Sanders. This will tell us how 2020 will go. Democrats go to the far left at their own peril.
Why would you think that? Republicans went far right and won.
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misterID wrote:The Bernie guy just won the Democratic nom from Graham for Florida governor... I am stunned. I was certain she was going to be the next governor, she was the perfect candidate. Holy Cow. DeSantis is going to win. No one thought he'd get the Republican nomination. Dems just lost South Florida, the panhandle, rural Florida and holy shit, they might have just lost Central Florida with this pick (Florida Hispanics are fervent anti socialist/communist).
If they just nominated a socialist over a moderate woman.... Buckle up.
Everyone in the country should pay attention to this race. This is Florida. THE swing state. A surrogate for Trump versus a surrogate for Sanders. This will tell us how 2020 will go. Democrats go to the far left at their own peril.
DeSantis pulled in nearly more votes than both Democratic candidates COMBINED.
Scott had a huge turnout also.
Re: US Politics Thread
Randall Flagg wrote:misterID wrote:The Bernie guy just won the Democratic nom from Graham for Florida governor... I am stunned. I was certain she was going to be the next governor, she was the perfect candidate. Holy Cow. DeSantis is going to win. No one thought he'd get the Republican nomination. Dems just lost South Florida, the panhandle, rural Florida and holy shit, they might have just lost Central Florida with this pick (Florida Hispanics are fervent anti socialist/communist).
If they just nominated a socialist over a moderate woman.... Buckle up.
Everyone in the country should pay attention to this race. This is Florida. THE swing state. A surrogate for Trump versus a surrogate for Sanders. This will tell us how 2020 will go. Democrats go to the far left at their own peril.
DeSantis pulled in nearly more votes than both Democratic candidates COMBINED.
Scott had a huge turnout also.
Pretty misleading...
The Dems ran 4 candidates totalling about 1.4 million votes.
The republicans ran 2 candidates totalling almost 1.5 million
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