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Such a controversial statement! How dare Trump sign this! He forgot to guarantee billions in cash he lacks the authority to provide!
I didn’t see anything about tariffs in there. Why not?
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https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles … yptr=yahoo
Photo op indeed
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Smoking Guns wrote:mitchejw wrote:People on the right were outraged when Obama met Castro...
Why is Trump drawn to dictators....and why do his supporters support it? Communist dictators and Trump.
FDR and Stalin were forced together through war.
We have gone from the fucker flying missiles over Japan to possibly denuclearization and you want to bitch. Unfuckingbelievable.
This is nothing but a Trump photo op...nothing has gotten better...
But man you love that dickheat don’t you SG.
Let’s just put this all together, fuck Iran now and we love North Korea! Do I have about right?
There’s no rhyme or reason to this it’s asinine but I don’t expect you to understand that. This is nothing but a photo opportunity which Trump loves. Fuck Trump.
Trump bows to Kim and angers our allies....ooooo k
It’s amazing all the leeway you give him. You’re so hypocritical.
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mitchejw wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:We have gone from the fucker flying missiles over Japan to possibly denuclearization and you want to bitch. Unfuckingbelievable.
This is nothing but a Trump photo op...nothing has gotten better...
But man you love that dickheat don’t you SG.
Let’s just put this all together, fuck Iran now and we love North Korea! Do I have about right?
There’s no rhyme or reason to this it’s asinine but I don’t expect you to understand that. This is nothing but a photo opportunity which Trump loves. Fuck Trump.
Trump bows to Kim and angers our allies....ooooo k
It’s amazing all the leeway you give him. You’re so hypocritical.
Interesting... we will be dropping military exercises aimed at preparedness immediately...
Lmao you’re telling me trump is a good negotiator?!?!? MAGA!!!!!!!!!
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Randall Flagg wrote:mitchejw wrote:You can be in denial about the fact that Trump is pissing off our allies in cozying up to people he should not be clozying up to. You’re not right down the middle on this dance at all. You are pretty right wing with your interpretations of all of the stuff.
You’re not consistent at all. You’ve been pretty critical of the Iran deal. But seem to love this.
Huh? Nothing has been put forward. I want something that is put before the Senate to ratify. You’re bitching and moaning and don’t have any idea what’s been discussed, let alone what will be in some future document that the Senate will have to ratify to make binding. I’m not claiming to be anything but someone advocating a sit down with Kim doesn’t harm anyone, and could result in a beneficial agreement.
I want Trump to do what i condemned Obama for not doing. Make it legal and binding. You can call me any name you want and it won’t change the reality you represent everything you accused the GOP of being under Obama.
What people who believe 9/11 was an inside job or hate their country call me is irrelevant. I’m one of the only consistent posters on this forum. Your own logical inconsistencies doesn’t impact that.
You’re not consistent. I know you like to think that you are...but you’re not.
You were critical of the Iran deal tho based on its merit as well as the whole senate ratifying. You spoke of scary Iran.
See...trump is going to make special agreements with NK and Their nuclear program...you know he is...and his spineless congress will put it through proving the once and for all that this republican movement is utterly full of shit. We won’t ratify for Iran but will for Trump and NK.
You better well and hope that congress doesn’t go back to the other side this fall...i believe congress has the right to undo this...after it inevitably goes into effect when spineless Paul Ryan and Mitch do whatever’s asked.
Regarding money...we’re already running massive deficits...you already know that...and do not seem to care. I’m sure Kim will get his fair share of kick backs if he’s smart enough to play trump like a fiddle. If Kim compliments him....he will get whatever he wants. MAGA!
Random question RF....will you enlist again if this almost inevitable war comes to fruition?
The biggest reason trump is doing this is to one up Obama.
Mitch, you’re not being rational and your post demonstrates you don’t even have a basic understanding of how treaties are signed. The house (Ryan) has no input or vote. It requires 2/3 of the Senate, so at least 15 Democratic Senators to sign on if the vote were held today. You’re also ignoring that both the GOP and Democrats want a treaty if Trump is going to do anything, have demands, and both Trump and Pompeo have stated any deal will ultimately be put forth in front of the Senate to make it official. Then Trump or whomever wins in 2020 can’t just tear a deal up, because it’s official.
You call Trump a dictator, but he’s not the one who made a non binding deal with Iran because everyone but the most ardent Obama sycophants opposed it. Schumer was a vocal critic and has remained consistent on this issue. Yes, I think Obama’s Iran deal was junk, mostly because it was a temporary solution that halted Iran for 10 years. I don’t have any opinion on a NK deal, because no deal exists yet. So spare me your academic evaluations of the consistency of my opinions, when you lack even a basic understanding of what occurred and what’s required. You’re not stupid, so why submit to partisan ignorance.
And I was an officer, so I’m in the inactive reserve until I’m 65. So yes, if WW3 broke out and they called my ass back up, I wouldn’t have a choice but to put the uniform back on. But I’m not incredibly concerned at this moment of that happening, and if it did, I’d be at the recruiting station before they ordered me back.
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mitchejw wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:Huh? Nothing has been put forward. I want something that is put before the Senate to ratify. You’re bitching and moaning and don’t have any idea what’s been discussed, let alone what will be in some future document that the Senate will have to ratify to make binding. I’m not claiming to be anything but someone advocating a sit down with Kim doesn’t harm anyone, and could result in a beneficial agreement.
I want Trump to do what i condemned Obama for not doing. Make it legal and binding. You can call me any name you want and it won’t change the reality you represent everything you accused the GOP of being under Obama.
What people who believe 9/11 was an inside job or hate their country call me is irrelevant. I’m one of the only consistent posters on this forum. Your own logical inconsistencies doesn’t impact that.
You’re not consistent. I know you like to think that you are...but you’re not.
You were critical of the Iran deal tho based on its merit as well as the whole senate ratifying. You spoke of scary Iran.
See...trump is going to make special agreements with NK and Their nuclear program...you know he is...and his spineless congress will put it through proving the once and for all that this republican movement is utterly full of shit. We won’t ratify for Iran but will for Trump and NK.
You better well and hope that congress doesn’t go back to the other side this fall...i believe congress has the right to undo this...after it inevitably goes into effect when spineless Paul Ryan and Mitch do whatever’s asked.
Regarding money...we’re already running massive deficits...you already know that...and do not seem to care. I’m sure Kim will get his fair share of kick backs if he’s smart enough to play trump like a fiddle. If Kim compliments him....he will get whatever he wants. MAGA!
Random question RF....will you enlist again if this almost inevitable war comes to fruition?
The biggest reason trump is doing this is to one up Obama.
Mitch, you’re not being rational and your post demonstrates you don’t even have a basic understanding of how treaties are signed. The house (Ryan) has no input or vote. It requires 2/3 of the Senate, so at least 15 Democratic Senators to sign on if the vote were held today.
And I was an officer, so I’m in the inactive reserve until I’m 65. So yes, if WW3 broke out and they called my ass back up, I wouldn’t have a choice but to put the uniform back on. But I’m not incredibly concerned at this moment of that happening, and if it did, I’d be at the recruiting station before they ordered me back.
Why do i need to know who ratifies what? And who has to know that to know both will do whatever trump asks?
Why would you be at the recruiting station? Just cuz Trump said so?
Edit: my phone badly needs an update and my posts appear to be not coming through in tact.
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Thanks....I’ll take that under advisement
I totally understand - and in part share - your frustration in regards to this thread and what's going on in this world, just so we're clear. But trust me when I say that you're wasting valuable time trying to change or enlighten people who don't want part of it. They'll believe what they want to believe and vice versa. Neither one will budge.
With that said, you do you. I've had my say.
