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mitchejw wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:Eh, I certainly don’t hate him like most of you do. He hasn’t really done anything wrong yet and things are objectively better since he stepped in. But I wouldn’t call me a supporter. I just try to avoid being a cheer leader and encourage audits to validate the watchers are doing what they claim.
There’s some real irony in a bunch of progressives saying law enforcement can’t be investigated for wrong doing. Especially after 5 years of #BLM
Things are SUBJECTIVELY better...after one policy implementation after another....your OPINION is that things are better...I see no OBJECTIVE evidence that anything has changed.
Lower unemployment, booming economy, and now most people are paying less in taxes. No, I’m not saying this is all due to Trump or despite Obama. Just saying the average person is better off on 1 Jan 2018 than 1 Jan 2017.
Those are all pretty objective.
Were they better in '16 than '15?
and 15 than 14
and 14 than 13
and 13 than 12
?
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Re: US Politics Thread
Randall Flagg wrote:mitchejw wrote:Things are SUBJECTIVELY better...after one policy implementation after another....your OPINION is that things are better...I see no OBJECTIVE evidence that anything has changed.
Lower unemployment, booming economy, and now most people are paying less in taxes. No, I’m not saying this is all due to Trump or despite Obama. Just saying the average person is better off on 1 Jan 2018 than 1 Jan 2017.
Those are all pretty objective.
Were they better in '16 than '15?
and 15 than 14
and 14 than 13
and 13 than 12?
Considering everyone said things would be worse under Trump I agree with RF. However the economy is bigger than any one president. BUT, this stock market rally is 75% due to Trump. Under Hillary we may get to 20,000 or so but under Trump it did skyrocket. This cannot be denied. Hilary nor Obama were for the tax Cuts and deregulation that Trump was. So Trump gets credit for that.
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Randall Flagg wrote:mitchejw wrote:Things are SUBJECTIVELY better...after one policy implementation after another....your OPINION is that things are better...I see no OBJECTIVE evidence that anything has changed.
Lower unemployment, booming economy, and now most people are paying less in taxes. No, I’m not saying this is all due to Trump or despite Obama. Just saying the average person is better off on 1 Jan 2018 than 1 Jan 2017.
Those are all pretty objective.
Were they better in '16 than '15?
and 15 than 14
and 14 than 13
and 13 than 12?
You miss my point. I’m not saying Trump made these things better. Though I do believe his business friendly behavior helped the stock market. I know things have been getting better since 2010 when the recession ended.
My point is that I’m not a Trump supporter, but I’m also not going to pretend things have gone to shit with him in charge either. He hasn’t weakened our military or weakened American force projection by drawing lines and pissing his pants when the line was crossed.
How much EU citizens love our President wasn’t ever a metric I thought mattered. But if you think it does, there’s a perfectly objective metric you can use to say Trump sucks.
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Huh, wonder why SLC isn’t posting about this:
https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/evidence- … t-the-fbi/
A hell of a lot more circumstantial evidence to support this. Is it because we know the Mueller probe is winding down and it’s painfully obvious the investigation from the start was improper? Stay tuned to find out why this is a nothing burger but sending a message on twitter to Assanage is paramount to treason and clear evidence Trump is/was a Russian stooge.
Turns out a big part of this is just a joke and Ron Johnson is already running away from the "secret society" stuff.
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Randall Flagg wrote:Huh, wonder why SLC isn’t posting about this:
https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/evidence- … t-the-fbi/
A hell of a lot more circumstantial evidence to support this. Is it because we know the Mueller probe is winding down and it’s painfully obvious the investigation from the start was improper? Stay tuned to find out why this is a nothing burger but sending a message on twitter to Assanage is paramount to treason and clear evidence Trump is/was a Russian stooge.
Turns out a big part of this is just a joke and Ron Johnson is already running away from the "secret society" stuff.
I’m more interested in the claim FISA warrants were abused and the use of the Steele dossier to justify them.
I have no idea if they’re true, but believe it deserves a proper look at and not just a handwaive. Especially after how adamant some were (and fewer still are) of collusion.
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bigbri wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:Huh, wonder why SLC isn’t posting about this:
https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/evidence- … t-the-fbi/
A hell of a lot more circumstantial evidence to support this. Is it because we know the Mueller probe is winding down and it’s painfully obvious the investigation from the start was improper? Stay tuned to find out why this is a nothing burger but sending a message on twitter to Assanage is paramount to treason and clear evidence Trump is/was a Russian stooge.
Turns out a big part of this is just a joke and Ron Johnson is already running away from the "secret society" stuff.
I’m more interested in the claim FISA warrants were abused and the use of the Steele dossier to justify them.
I have no idea if they’re true, but believe it deserves a proper look at and not just a handwaive. Especially after how adamant some were (and fewer still are) of collusion.
I’ll give you one thing RF...you stick to your FOX News talking points well
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Huh, wonder why SLC isn’t posting about this:
https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/evidence- … t-the-fbi/
A hell of a lot more circumstantial evidence to support this. Is it because we know the Mueller probe is winding down and it’s painfully obvious the investigation from the start was improper? Stay tuned to find out why this is a nothing burger but sending a message on twitter to Assanage is paramount to treason and clear evidence Trump is/was a Russian stooge.
Because it's non sense maybe?
Every step closer to Trump, a story like this emerges and always yields nothing. Rubes talk about it, then forget, then talk about the next smoke screen that's put up.
The arrogance of wingnuts to say things like "painfully obvious" or claim nothing exists with an ongoing investigation that may last another year...it's sad really.
Trump is about to speak to Mueller by all accounts, which most of us understand will not end well for him.
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Also gotta love the silence from the evangelicals. I mean, I've always known they were full of shit, but this just takes the piss. Trump paying off a porn star with a shell account created by Cohen, right before the election.
Conservatives, especially conservative "christians" stand for absolutely nothing.
