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- Randall Flagg
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That's great. I took numerous stats classes and I work at the WHQ for a Fortune 100. So I wouldn't get into a pissing contest on who has the most business acumen. I'm genuinely not interested in being combative with you or anyone else. But you don't get to misrepresent what I said or my intentions to make me be the republican boogeyman you constantly accuse me of being.
We don't agree. That's cool. But neither you or I am entitled to a different set of facts. You're free to desire our government come to a screeching halt like the tea party desired for 4 years. Am I'm free to call that mentality stupid now just as I did then. That's all I've been trying to say. Quit the partisan bullshit - it doesn't help anyone. I support immigration reform, you don't. Cool. But you don't get to call everyone a racist because they believe our immigration laws should be enforced. Just as I don't get to call anyone who doesn't want WW3 (despite the fact that I openly opposed nearly every military action in the past 14 years) a pussy.
All I'm asking for is consistency and not towing the party line. I opposed Garland not having a vote. I said repeatedly that the tea party is the most damaging aspect of our government (though not most potentially damaging - that belongs to the Sanders and Ellison crowd). I didn't give a shit about Benghzai save Rice and Clinton lying about the video. I didn't care about Clinton's emails save her lying about it. She broke the law, but she was also the Secretary of State, so she gets more leeway in handling classified material than some 20 year old Seaman on a nuclear sub.
I know you haven't been on the forums for 14+ years like most of us, but your buddy has balls the size of Texas to attack anyone on credibility the way he commented on Bush for 8 years calling him everything but a white man, the biggest anti-war poster in the GNR community, then went absolutely silent the day Obama took office. Sorry, that's partisan bullshit.
As far as I know, Flynn is the only Trump person to bail, after his conversation was illegally leaked. That doesn't excuse his behavior and I fully support him being outsted, but why were the Podesta leaks the worst thing ever, but no Democrat is upset that our own intel community was leaking shit to the press? Why was it crucial Sessions recuse himself from the investigation, but not a single Democrat called for Lynch to recuse herself after her secret meeting? It's the partisan bullshit that annoys me and those who defend it with a straight face.
And I'm only 99.4% white according to my 23 and me DNA results. I'm .4 black and .2 Native American, thank you very much.
Re: US Politics Thread
That's great. I took numerous stats classes and I work at the WHQ for a Fortune 100.
So does that mean you scrub toilets at Walmarts head office?
- Randall Flagg
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Re: US Politics Thread
Randall Flagg wrote:That's great. I took numerous stats classes and I work at the WHQ for a Fortune 100.
So does that mean you scrub toilets at Walmarts head office?
Urinals
Re: US Politics Thread
mitchejw wrote:Adults know RF doesn't post the Rasmussen poll anymore because it no longer fits his confirmation bias....
Adults know that RF scoured the internet to find the poll that made Trump look the best and repeatedly posted it.
Adults know that nothing is getting done right now and nothing will get done this year....
Get SLCs balls out of your mouth and quit lying. Ramussen is the best poll out there because of their data. I don't care if you disagree, but I know you have no clue what data any pollsters uses. I posted them 2 or 3 times to directly refute your partisan, alarmist nonsense posting some poll you didn't even understand. You're not an intelligent person, we all get that. It's painfully apparent in your writing style and how you can't even summarize an article you linked (SLC suffers the same problem, but he runs away and refuses to defend his lies hoping people will forget. You just jam the dildo right back up your ass and ask for more).
I'm flattered you're in love with me, but I won't be the gentle lover SLC has been. I'm sure you two have had a lot of fun being Alpha males together while you jerk off to home made porn of an Obama stand in fucking your wives (See, I can use the same insults our two resident cuckolds use!)
Your party is irrelevant. The adults are in charge. The other adults will weigh and comment on each action and not pull 9/11 conspiracies to justify their opinions. The idiots and children will scream at the wind, stomp their feet and claim they have any real power.
Until you or the truther can come up with something factual or original, I won't be engaging you any longer. Feel free to lick SLC's ass for a few more months. He lost all his other cheerleaders that supported him over the years, so hopefully you go away soon too.
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: US Politics Thread
War is like crack for presidents. It confers instant gravitas, catapulting them to respectability, bypassing all station stops. They get to make macho pronouncements on a topic where every utterance is seen as august.
On the other hand, Trump's Syrian misadventure is immoral, violates every promise he ran on and could sink his presidency.
Left to his own devices, uncontaminated by Washington group-think, Trump gets it right.
Back in 2013, when President Obama was being egged on to attack Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack far more sweeping than this latest one, Trump tweeted:
-- Aug. 29, 2013:
"What will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict? Obama needs Congressional approval.”
-- Aug. 31, 2013:
"Be prepared, there is a small chance that our horrendous leadership could unknowingly lead us into World War III.”
-- Sept. 1, 2013:
"If the U.S. attacks Syria and hits the wrong targets, killing civilians, there will be worldwide hell to pay. Stay away and fix broken U.S.”
On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly stated that he had no interest in starting "World War III over Syria," saying, "We have bigger problems than Assad." His policy position was: "Let Syria and ISIS fight. I look at Assad -- and Assad looks better than the other side.”
Trump was right on every point.
Assad is one of the least bad leaders in the entire Middle East. He's not a murderous thug like Saddam, has no rape rooms, isn't into jihad, protects Christians and is fighting ISIS. He provided us with intelligence on al-Qaida after 9/11. He does not have crazy Islamic police slapping women around or throwing gays off buildings. (That would be our beloved ally, Saudi Arabia.)
Trump was also correct about Assad's opponents being far worse, containing large helpings of both ISIS and al-Qaida.
As awful as it was to see those dead children, Trump knew that America’s first duty is to our own children.
We have never succeeded at turning a Third World dictatorship into a paradise. The history of these things is that removing a Middle Eastern strongman always makes things worse -- for example, in Iran, Iraq, Libya and Egypt.
We leap in, thinking we're helping the poor devils under the thumb of a dictator -- and then the new tribe takes over and oppresses everyone else, usually much more brutally, while hating us even more than the old tribe did.
If voters wanted more Middle Eastern wars, there were plenty of other candidates offering that: Marco Rubio, Lindsey Graham, Carly Fiorina and Hillary Clinton, for example. And we must never forget Jeb! though it proved surprisingly easy to do so in 2016.
But we picked Trump.
While most of the left wailed about the return of Nazi Germany under Trump, savvier liberals saw his vulnerability: flattery. All we have to do is praise him! You'll be shocked at how easy it is.
And, boy, did they lay it on thick with the Syrian misadventure. No sucker's bait was left on the floor. Cable news hosts gushed, "Trump became president of the United States tonight!" On MSNBC, Brian Williams called the bombing "beautiful" three times in less than a minute. Sen. Lindsey Graham (one of the "women of the Senate," according to Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg) compared Trump to Reagan. The New York Times headlined an article, "On Syria Attack, Trump's Heart Came First.”
My nightmare scenario: Trump and Jared watching TV together and high-fiving: DID YOU SEE THE NEWS! THEY LOVE YOU! All Trump had to do was pointlessly bomb another country, and it was as if a genie had granted his every wish.
Looking for some upside to this fiasco, desperate Trump supporters bleated that bombing Assad had sent a message to North Korea. Yes, the message is: The Washington establishment is determined to manipulate the president into launching counterproductive military strikes. Our enemies -- both foreign and domestic -- would be delighted to see our broken country further weaken itself with pointless wars.
Was America strengthened by the Iraq War? The apparently never-ending Afghanistan War? Vietnam? This is how great powers die, which is exactly what the left wants.
Administration policy was heading in the wrong direction at 90 mph, but thank God, Trump seems to have grabbed the steering wheel and hit the brakes. Notwithstanding the hopes and dreams of Clausewitzian military strategist Nikki Haley, we will not be engaging in regime change in Syria or starting World War III with Russia today.
We want the "president of America" back -- not "the president of the world.”
Re: US Politics Thread
Was America strengthened by the Iraq War? The apparently never-ending Afghanistan War? Vietnam? This is how great powers die, which is exactly what the left wants.
Administration policy was heading in the wrong direction at 90 mph, but thank God, Trump seems to have grabbed the steering wheel and hit the brakes. Notwithstanding the hopes and dreams of Clausewitzian military strategist Nikki Haley, we will not be engaging in regime change in Syria or starting World War III with Russia today.
We want the "president of America" back -- not "the president of the world.”
I'm confused?! "Obama" was getting us into all these wars?
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
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Randall Flagg wrote:Was America strengthened by the Iraq War? The apparently never-ending Afghanistan War? Vietnam? This is how great powers die, which is exactly what the left wants.
Administration policy was heading in the wrong direction at 90 mph, but thank God, Trump seems to have grabbed the steering wheel and hit the brakes. Notwithstanding the hopes and dreams of Clausewitzian military strategist Nikki Haley, we will not be engaging in regime change in Syria or starting World War III with Russia today.
We want the "president of America" back -- not "the president of the world.”
I'm confused?! "Obama" was getting us into all these wars?
What does her article have to do with Obama? It's a commentary on all of our nation building and actions in the Middle East regardless of whom was President. America should not be in the business of going to other countries to liberate them or provide humanitarian support. Short of an Iraq type occupation, every instance of our meddling has been an objective failure since the Korean War. And we saw what happened to Iraq the second we pulled out, it became another shit hole ripe with anti-American extremist.
Striking Syria was stupid because we gained nothing from it. We weakened our ability to effectively remove ISIS from the country and are provoking Russia. Who knows what China is up to. It's fucking great all of the West including people on TV who read the news came out to support us, but none of that amounts to shit. Brian Williams can sing the Star Spangled Banner all night, but that has no real world impact.
I want to avoid conflict and disruption to our daily routines. Bombing Syria didn't advance that.
- Smoking Guns
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