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mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

I still fail to see how in 3 months time because the economy is great it's entirely all Trump (not the President who REBOUNDED the economy the past 8 years after the terrible disaster that was our last President) all the while knowing in 4 years the economy could very well be in the toilet again?!!


Definitely pre-emptive thinking. Let's calm down a bit, shall we.

Rf is in total 'everything must fit my narrative' mode.

Obama will never receive any credit for anything by people like that. It's mid-December and he's already comparing Trump to Kennedy. It's gross...his mind is made up...and it won't matter what Trump does, he's already seeing him as the orange god.

Randall Flagg
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PaSnow wrote:

I still fail to see how in 3 months time because the economy is great it's entirely all Trump (not the President who REBOUNDED the economy the past 8 years after the terrible disaster that was our last President) all the while knowing in 4 years the economy could very well be in the toilet again?!!


Definitely pre-emptive thinking. Let's calm down a bit, shall we.


You don't think the DOW and $ have anything to do with Trump.  It's just a coincidence they jumped after he was elected?  What the fuck has Obama done for business?  He's done nothing but create more red tape the past 8 years.

mitchejw
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Re: US Politics Thread

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

I still fail to see how in 3 months time because the economy is great it's entirely all Trump (not the President who REBOUNDED the economy the past 8 years after the terrible disaster that was our last President) all the while knowing in 4 years the economy could very well be in the toilet again?!!


Definitely pre-emptive thinking. Let's calm down a bit, shall we.


You don't think the DOW and $ have anything to do with Trump.  It's just a coincidence they jumped after he was elected?  What the fuck has Obama done for business?  He's done nothing but create more red tape the past 8 years.

You're right...everything good that's ever happened over the last 8 years couldn't possibly account for what Trump has done in his 0 days in office.

mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:

Now the FBI joins the CIA in support of their allegations...

Now conservatives have to disparage another agency that disagrees with their narrative.

Randall Flagg
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mitchejw wrote:

Now the FBI joins the CIA in support of their allegations...

Now conservatives have to disparage another agency that disagrees with their narrative.


No, I think the GOP leadership joined Democrats in calling for an immediate hearing on the claims, and the CIA declined.  People are asking the Electorals vote anyone but Trump because of this claim, and the CIA won't provide any information to Congress before the EC votes?  If they have information that Trump worked with Putin to impact the election, that is treason and the American people should be made aware of that immediately.  If all they're going to say is what we already know, Putin was pissed that Clinton tried to influence his election so he returned the favor by only releasing DNC emails, that's not quite the same now is it?

I said when Comey released that letter a week before the election that it had to be something major, because I found it unfathomable he would do that with nothing new to provide.  I said that on this forum and have since stated he should resign for that stunt.  How much it impacted the election is impossible to say, but there is no denying it did.  We have the same thing here now with the CIA.  If they have something, brief Congressional leadership and the President behind closed doors if it's that sensitive.  But if our two major intelligence agencies are going to start playing politics to upset the American people, that's a hell of a lot bigger problem than if Russia leaked FACTUAL and ACCURATE emails from the DNC.

Randall Flagg
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Re: US Politics Thread

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

I still fail to see how in 3 months time because the economy is great it's entirely all Trump (not the President who REBOUNDED the economy the past 8 years after the terrible disaster that was our last President) all the while knowing in 4 years the economy could very well be in the toilet again?!!


Definitely pre-emptive thinking. Let's calm down a bit, shall we.


You don't think the DOW and $ have anything to do with Trump.  It's just a coincidence they jumped after he was elected?  What the fuck has Obama done for business?  He's done nothing but create more red tape the past 8 years.

You're right...everything good that's ever happened over the last 8 years couldn't possibly account for what Trump has done in his 0 days in office.


I don't think you know how the stock market and financial systems work.  So to flip it, what has Obama done that has led to these increases that occurred the day after Trump was elected.  Who do you think is a better President for business and the stock market?  The answer is self evident.

PaSnow
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Re: US Politics Thread

PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

You don't think the DOW and $ have anything to do with Trump.  It's just a coincidence they jumped after he was elected?  What the fuck has Obama done for business?  He's done nothing but create more red tape the past 8 years.

You're right...everything good that's ever happened over the last 8 years couldn't possibly account for what Trump has done in his 0 days in office.


I don't think you know how the stock market and financial systems work.  So to flip it, what has Obama done that has led to these increases that occurred the day after Trump was elected.  Who do you think is a better President for business and the stock market?  The answer is self evident.

Well for starters the stock market went up 12,000 under Obama's Presidency after dropping 3000 under our last Republican President.... So there's that.


Is that how the stock market works??  tongue

mitchejw
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Re: US Politics Thread

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

You don't think the DOW and $ have anything to do with Trump.  It's just a coincidence they jumped after he was elected?  What the fuck has Obama done for business?  He's done nothing but create more red tape the past 8 years.

You're right...everything good that's ever happened over the last 8 years couldn't possibly account for what Trump has done in his 0 days in office.


I don't think you know how the stock market and financial systems work.  So to flip it, what has Obama done that has led to these increases that occurred the day after Trump was elected.  Who do you think is a better President for business and the stock market?  The answer is self evident.

I guess it depends on what you mean by 'business.' If you mean, reckless, deregulated, unethical, immoral financial philosophies....then you're right...Trump will be great for the stock market.

But responsible? Responsible and accountable are two things he's never been good at...

I don't care about the stock market anyway....it's like going to the casino...it doesn't make any sense....you want to talk about emotional behavior....the stock market is where it's all at...

misterID
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Re: US Politics Thread

misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

I still fail to see how in 3 months time because the economy is great it's entirely all Trump (not the President who REBOUNDED the economy the past 8 years after the terrible disaster that was our last President) all the while knowing in 4 years the economy could very well be in the toilet again?!!


Definitely pre-emptive thinking. Let's calm down a bit, shall we.


You don't think the DOW and $ have anything to do with Trump.  It's just a coincidence they jumped after he was elected?  What the fuck has Obama done for business? He's done nothing but create more red tape the past 8 years.

Obama had record dow numbers too. But somehow, that never counted. Wait and see how the January Effect goes, or even until March. This is an artificial bump, and I'm kind of surprised you're getting hoodwinked by it.

Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:

Never use the stock market as a barometer about how the pres is doing or how the economy is. It is run by the mega rich and hedge funds and we are along for the ride. Now the Trump effect is new pro business money coming off of the sidelines. People just assume Trump will be better for business. So in this case this record bump IS really because of Trump.

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