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johndivney wrote:Uh.. how about it's the moral & legal thing to do? Just because he's lost an election are these women & girls should stop saying he assaulted them?!
U making no sense.... "ok mr Trump now you're not gonna be potus it's ok you touched me inappropriately. Let's forget about it."On the flip side I think some of these women (afaik) didn't accuse him of assault, until he ran for President. One of which was back in the early 80s. Not saying it was right to do (if he did it), but it's a two way street.
Victim blaming's not cool, man. Plenty o reasons abuse victims don't come forward.
No two way street/flip side. + the big mouth has admitted his conduct ffs.
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If you're going to argue the 13 year old's rape claim is credible, you have to believe Bill Clinton fucked the same children. After all, he rode the Lolita Expresss no less than 5 times with no secret service detail. And since Hillary has openly defended him against the other claims, she's either complicit with his rape or actually enabling it.
I don't want to make that claim, so I caution people to go down a road they aren't interested in going down.
Do we really need to repeat all the proven lies from Hillary's mouth that cost others their careers, but you folks handwaive?
That's not a fair comparison because, for one, the girl suing Trump for rape was one of Epstein's victims, the guy who ran the Lolita Express, which Donald frequented, and second, Bill isn't being sued by anyone saying they were raped by him when they were 13, Trump is. And let's be clear, A LOT of celebrities went to that island, including socialites and supermodels, and no one else is being accused as it was a very small circle of people who were involved in Epstein's little massage activities. There have been a lot of girls who have come forward and the only celebrity named as having sexual contact with them was Trump. And there's no audio tape or interviews where Bill brags about his groping behavior, there is with Trump.
Also, the only thing ever proven about Bill was that he had consensual affairs on Hillary and lied about them with women of legal age. There have been multiple investigations on him, including the justice department and Ken Starr, and no one could find any credible evidence that he abused anyone, or any credible victim allegations. The "rape" allegation came from a woman who keeps changing her story, and after saying no one had intimidated or tried to silence her, she did an interview with Drudg saying Hillary threatened her into silence. This is the incident Trump keeps pointing to that he says Hillary abused these women also. Want to hear the threat the woman said Hillary made to her? Here it is. It was at Bill's rally three weeks after the alleged rape that she voluntarily came to. As Hillary was making the rounds with the campaign volunteers, thanking everyone for their help and support she shook Broaddrick's hand and said:
"I am so happy to meet you. I want you to know that we appreciate everything you do for Bill.’"
That's it. That was the threat. That's what Trump keeps referring to.
I used to listen to Howard Stern all the time back then and when Trump first teased running I thought all they had to do was pull those tapes out. I remember the interview where he bragged about walking in on the girls in his beauty pageants, that it was a perk of owning them that he got to examine the merchandise and I swear I thought he was joking. It just shows the entitlent of someone who could do that and brag about it in public. Amazing.
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How can you not like some of that shit. He is such a bauce sometimes.
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Trump - Unshackled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLcP0inAS5w
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Better than Pornhub for you guys huh?
I don't see the appeal frankly. The notion alone that he would claim the media was conspiring against him and the election itself was rigged, is an affront to our democracy. (Funny he never said this once during the GOP primary either) It's a dangerous precedent to say the least and could lead to violence post election.
He's tapping the hardcore base here, the 28-30%. The Brietbarts, the Infowar subscribers...this is red meat for them. But he's alienating everybody else in the process.
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Former nuclear launch officers sign letter: Trump ‘should not have his finger on the button’
Ten former nuclear launch control officers who once held the keys needed to fire on the president’s order have signed an open letter saying they think Donald Trump should not be entrusted with the nation’s nuclear codes.
The letter, issued Thursday, says the decision to use nuclear weapons requires “composure, judgment, restraint and diplomatic skill” — all qualities that the former Air Force officers who signed it said Trump lacks.
“On the contrary, he has shown himself time and again to be easily baited and quick to lash out, dismissive of expert consultation and ill-informed of even basic military and international affairs — including, most especially, nuclear weapons,” the letter says. “Donald Trump should not be the nation’s commander-in-chief. He should not be entrusted with the nuclear launch codes. He should not have his finger on the button.”
The letter is the latest in an extraordinary series of missives signed this year by diplomats and national security experts warning of the dangers they think a Trump presidency would pose. Last month, in a break from the trend, 88 retired military leaders endorsed the Republican presidential nominee. But most of the letters have reflected the views of those who consider Trump unfit to be commander in chief.
The former missileers who signed Thursday’s letter served at the nation’s four underground launch centers in the Great Plains from as long ago as the 1960s to, most recently, 2013. They do not endorse Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, or even mention her name, in the letter.
“No one who signed the letter wanted to disclose a position who they would vote for,” said Bruce Blair, who organized the letter and said he is a Democrat who will vote for Clinton but has no idea which candidate the others support. “The letter is focused entirely on Trump.”
Blair said the signatories are part of a circle of friends and acquaintances who were “flabbergasted and flummoxed” by the prospect of Trump winning the election. He said they decided several weeks ago to release an open letter, when polls showed Trump and Clinton much closer than more recent numbers do.
“It sort of snuck up on us,” he said. “They were at a virtual tie in the polls. You kind of woke up one day and realized it’s very possible that this person, this pathological liar, who lacks self-control, who knows very little about anything and is angry and aggressive, who might lash out with nuclear weapons if he’s elected, could win. That sort of dawned on everyone. We felt we needed to weigh in.”
The nation’s nuclear-armed missiles are kept at Air Force bases in Cheyenne, Wyo., Minot, N.D., and Great Falls, Mont. A fourth base’s nuclear facility, in Grand Forks, N.D., has been decommissioned.
If a president orders a missile launch, Blair said, five crews are equipped with keys used to fire a total of 50 missiles. Although the keys are interconnected, the missiles can be launched if just two crews carry out the order.
“Only the president can order a nuclear launch,” the letter states. “That order cannot be vetoed and once the missiles have been launched, they cannot be called back. The consequences of miscalculation, impulsive decision-making or poor judgment on the part of the president could be catastrophic.”
Blair said the officers are trained to put aside any personal doubts and trust in the system and the leadership.
“The presumption is, the commander in chief is acting in the national interest, and his decision should be grounded in knowledge and good advice,” he said. “Everyone would have to assume that, even though they had doubts — very strong doubts, if Trump were president.”
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How can you not like some of that shit. He is such a bauce sometimes.
It's a man with somewhere between 3 and 10 billion dollars talking about how the powerbrokers of the world have screwed the little guy?
