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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Trump's bread and butter is his current outsider, non moderate shtick. He's fired everyone on his campaign who suggested he should do what you suggested. It's a niche campaign, there's nowhere else to go, and he's too busy imploding to listen even if he wanted to. He's already stated he will lie and tell anyone what they want to hear if it gets him what he wants (see his explanation for being a Hillary supporter). His followers seem to accept that, so why should he change?
And Hillary's most likely opponent would be Paul Ryan, the Ayn Rand school of survival of the richest, who wants to get rid of medicare and social security. Hillary would do better against Ryan than Trump, IMO.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Trump's bread and butter is his current outsider, non moderate shtick. He's fired everyone on his campaign who suggested he should do what you suggested. It's a niche campaign, there's nowhere else to go, and he's too busy imploding to listen even if he wanted to. He's already stated he will lie and tell anyone what they want to hear if it gets him what he wants (see his explanation for being a Hillary supporter). His followers seem to accept that, so why should he change?
And Hillary's most likely opponent would be Paul Ryan, the Ayn Rand school of survival of the richest, who wants to get rid of medicare and social security. Hillary would do better against Ryan than Trump, IMO.
I guess by moderate I mean center/independant voters. As general elections go, Hilary will win the Dems, Trump will win the Republicans. The large independant/undecided voters are likely going to vote for Hillary en masse right now rather than wackjob Donald. Sure it worked in the primary, but the primary election IS trying to win Republican voters in southern states. Not moderates & suburbanites in Florida, Colorado, Ohio, Virginia, PA etc..
Whole different animal.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
I think Trump is intentionally sabotaging his own candidacy now with the crazy shit he continues to say. LIke I said, Hillary has it in the bag.
If he was serious, he'd be moving to the center and would also complain about how CA voters were treated in the primary(voters on all sides). He's not mentioning it because he doesn't care.....even though he should care since a dem cant win the presidency without CA. He could stir up independent/democrat voters here like a hornet's nest and create lots of problems for Hillary and make her waste precious time/money in a state that should be a lock for her.
Why isn't he doing this? Because he knows he isn't going to win.
I disagree about one term for Hillary. I said this in 2012.....the era of one term presidents is over. Once the corporations have their chosen stooge in place, they keep them there 8 years and then choose the next stooge that does their bidding and then he/she gets two terms. They simply get a patsy(Kerry, McCain, Romney, Trump,etc.) to take the fall to continue the sham. Repeat until we finally get someone who will rise up and take a scorched earth policy to the corruption ruining this country.
Clinton- 2 terms
Bush=2 terms
Obama-2 terms
Clinton- 2 terms
While Bill did some good things and Bush a handful as well, the ruination of this country happened on that watch above and it will continue until the public truly gets fed up and demands change.....and I'm not talking about that Obama "change" that was just more of the same drivel people claimed to hate when Bush was doing it.
Whether you liked Sanders or Trump, early on they both acknowledged the mass corruption and refused to be bought off by these psychos. Both sides(actually one side) and the media did everything in their power to neutralize these candidates. Sanders is burnt toast and trump is now sabotaging his own chances when months ago it appeared he actually had a legitimate shot at going all the way. We should have known all along that the establishment was never going to allow either one through the door. It was window dressing.
I did not like Sanders at all although I respected his refusal to be corrupted but I feel sorry for him. He wanted to change things but that cant be allowed. He never even had a chance as the dem primaries are rigged before the starting gun. So the media let people pretend he had a chance for awhile to fuel the news cycle and then they proceed to fuck him in the ass.
There needs to be a massive shakeup in the establishment(executive and legislative branch) and all this corporate lobbyist, SuperPACS, etc. needs to be illegal and thrown on the ash heap of history.
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I don't feel sorry for Sanders, he is not and was never a democrat, but he wanted the power structure of the democratic party, he knew what he was getting into when he decided not to run as an independent socialist, which is what he's been his entire career. He entered fully aware of the rules, and then complained about it. I didn't like the majority of his supporters who wanted to hijack the party, sometimes violently, and pull it from a moderate stance to a socialist once. That wasn't right, IMO.
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
We are so fucked. Hilary will win... She will not be the liberal the DEMS want and yet the conservatives will still hate her. She will be much better than Obama however. You can't get worse than that guy. Maybe Trump could be worse but they were both inexperienced as fuck. Obama was a community organizer for fucks sake, whatever the hell that is. At least Trump has had a career. Hilary is a joke too. What a shitty crop of candidates we had.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
The Young Turks posted a video about google manipulating search results based upon if you type "Hillary Clinton ind" one of the suggestions says Indiana instead of indictment unlike Bing/Yahoo.
The problem is they didn't take into account that "Hillary ind" provides the desired results. They backtracked and deleted the video 
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Apparently the real only news is that people who think Hillary is the anti-christ, either have dissociated her with being a Clinton or are so angry they can't be bothered typing in her full name.
Here's some examples that were posted;
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
We live in such a crazy world. Google was censoring Trump awhile back as well....it was mentioned on CNN's website at the time. The first time I realized the fix was probably in.
They definitely want people forgetting about that investigation.
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
polluxlm wrote:That was disturbing to say the least. Amazes me to think those people actually believe what they're doing is right. I'm all for free speech, but they're doing nothing to improve their images through their actions.
The free loading cock sucking mother fuckers are the product of the liberal agenda. This is disgusting. The media, your friends at MSNBC especially call Trump a rapist, racist, bigot etc and then characterize all his supporters as white racists scared of blacks and Mexians. So the blacks and Mexicans show up to teach this peaceful racists what is up by assaulting them and actually making them scared of blacks and Mexicans. These government dependant voters are who the DEMS rely on. So fucking sad and pathetic. They are a huge part of the electorate. The smart Bernie and Hillary supporters you see on TV are the best of the best and good folks. But this is the underbelly of those same voters. These are the ones that want the free shit. The next time you show Trump supporters acting like this to Bernie supporters in a mob mentality will be the first.
