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- Smoking Guns
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
More of their money goes back to Mexico than gets spent here. That's why they have multiple families living together. Live here cheap, send all the money to Mexico. Again, there are legal means for coming here...follow them. If they need to be adjusted for migrant farm workers, adjust them. The illegals drain the economy more than their cheap labor helps it.
The legal way doesn't help poor people from Mexico. You have to have money to get here legally. Now if you are from India, Arab Nations, China, it is much easier to come here legally some how. And the student visas get handed out like Candy to everyone all over the world except Mexico and Central America. The legal way for a Mexican is usually 10+ years and thousands of dollars. There is no Ellis Island anymore.
- Smoking Guns
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So be it. Have the people that need them petition to have the laws adapted. I have no tolerance for the crap that's been going on for decades and I certainly have no interest in giving them a pass for breaking the law.
I agree!
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Axlin16 wrote:Dude, I haven't met one single person that doesn't think Trump isn't the savior of America. Including Democrats. The only naysayers i've seen are the conspiracy types that, are correct, in pointing out Trump's many evils over the years and are convinced he'd be Mussolini for a President.
A good amount of registered Republicans loathe this man. Can't stand him. Find him obtuse and obnoxious. Dangerous.
If you think that the GOP will come out en masse to vote for Trump, and at the same time democratic defectors will cross the line from the left side of the aisle to vote for him, you're completely mistaken. If he was going to "Crush" Hillary, polling data would already show that, but it doesn't. On the other hand, polling data consistently shows him obliterating the right wing field, which he has. However for the GE the latest FOX NEWS poll has Hillary at 47 and Trump at 42. NBC has Clinton at 50 and Trump at 40. Quinnipac has Clinton on top again at 46/41. However, that's today. The election is still a long ways away.
You're also completely ignoring the reality of the electoral map. If you keep NV, OH, CO, IA, FL, NC, VA and WI as toss up states, that still leaves Hillary at 241 walking in the door. And that's me being very generous with WI, IA and NV. (if I included those three, which I'd say is likely, she's at 263 to start)
If Trump does beat Hillary, it's going to be by 30 points or so, and that's really difficult math for the Republican party to pull off.
Edit: and while all the alpha-male posturing, trash talking other cultures and misogyny made him a darling with the GOP, that same narrative will be used against him 24/7 by the DNC. The Latino vote btw is one of the largest growing demographics, who the GOP desperately need, that Trump has completely alienated from the get-go.
Good points, although the Latino thing is wrong. The "Latinos are alienated by Trump" is a media creation. Many Latinos showed up as GOP voters and cast votes for Trump. It helped him win the Caucus in Nevada. There are plenty of right-wing latinos that support Trump. What's more troubling to the GOP elite is WHY are Latinos en masse voting for Trump and not Rubio/Cruz? It's puzzling to them, because all of the elites are racist. They can't possibly wrap their mind around the fact that there are Mexicans/Puerto Ricans (maybe not Cubans) in this country that came here legally (which is a logistical NIGHTMARE to do mind you), and want to ship all the welchers back to where they came from. Some Latinos agree with Trump. Democrat minority voters will NEVER cast a vote across the aisle for Trump, but mark my words... a MASSIVE amount of White Democratic voters will jump over to Trump. Polling data ain't gonna show it now, but come election day it's gonna shock alot of people. I'm calling it.
Hillary is FAR MORE HATED than people give her credit for. Right now, the ONLY reason she is defeating Bernie is because of the fact that standard, traditional, non-Socialist Democrats IN THE SOUTH are showing her support from within her own party. It's false bravado.
Hillary, no matter how many politically correct things she throws at Trump, is going to have a tough time selling that card to the larger voters in America. The ones who don't vote in primaries. As soon as Hillary plays ANY standard liberal card of womanhood, or racism, or anything of the sort, she not only is going to make Trump's numbers go UP overnight, she's also going to open herself up to criticism because Trump can just get Alex Jones on the hotline who has hated her and her family for years and can supply Trump with a fucking mansion full of "Vote Hillary in Arkansas!" stickers with Confederate flags in the back, and depict her as just as much of a racist. She and her husband won multiple counties across the south by pandering to racist whites in poorer rural communities. It's went on for decades.
She better be very careful how she plays that card. Because up to this point, ANYONE who has done that to Trump, from politicians, to celebrities, to the mainstream media, just makes his poll numbers climb overnight. Look at Rubio, he's a mixed race Latino, and even HE has given up on attacking Donald that way, and has now relegated himself to making fun of Donald's TAN of all things as a last ditch effort to save his campaign.
If Trump runs, barring any unforseen collapse, staying the course right now.... Hillary is gonna be Mitt Romney 2016. It's gonna SHOCK the mainstream media, and American political system when Trump walks away with 2/3 of the vote. They are vastly underrating how many people HATE HER, on both sides.
Maybe i'm wrong. But I don't think I am.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
More Mexicans go back to Mexico instead of coming to the U.S. anyway. It's not the national problem it's made out to be. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl … /76013230/
We agree on something, finally. Yeah, the immigration thing with Trump is nothing more than a good old fashioned bait n' switch. Trump knows he's not going to be able to deport on a mass level, AND he knows he's not going to build a wall, not unless he goes full Kim Jong Un-level. It's just not going to happen.
But people are always riled up about bait words like immigration, abortion rights, gun laws, etc. And they fall for the same old tricks everytime.
There's been laws n' shit in place for years protecting the North American Union of Canada, U.S. & Mexico since the Bush administration. We haven't had borders in America for YEARS. It's all an illusion that will never, ever get changed.
Unless Trump is serious
Wow... then things might get interesting in the next four years.... or deadly.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Unless Trump is serious
Wow... then things might get interesting in the next four years.... or deadly.
I'm starting to think he might be. At first I thought it was all the usual smokes and mirrors, but after watching him and listening to him there is a fair chance he actually believes all of this. Now that it looks like he may actually get in the big chair, I don't see Donald Trump being satisfied with just becoming President and spend his term(s) as a lame duck. He's going to fight it out any way he can. This man's ego is insatiable.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Dude, I haven't met one single person that doesn't think Trump isn't the savior of America. Including Democrats. The only naysayers i've seen are the conspiracy types that, are correct, in pointing out Trump's many evils over the years and are convinced he'd be Mussolini for a President.
This is funny because he tweeted a Mussolini quote today, unknowingly.
What was the quote?- Smoking Guns
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
The US could have much more worse neighbors than Canada and Mexico. Could be Syria and Iraq. We are very lucky to have those two as neighbors.
