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Re: Why the Guns 'N Roses Reunion Is a Mistake
All Guns 'N Roses fans are up in arms about the original reunion which will feature Axl Rose, Slash and Duff McKagan all stepping onto the same stage once again. Although with this came years of speculation between the three of them and their relationship with one another. This included a drop-out from Axl when Guns 'N Roses were inducted into the hall of fame in 2012 and he didn't attend the ceremony with an open letter.
This then fuels some doubt about the two shows booked for Las Vegas in April later this year that makes any fan think "will it be the same as before?" My answer is no. Their relationship has been torn apart too much for it to be the same; the stage presence will just look awkward and shady. Yes, they were having rehearsals, but who's to say that's in the same room as each other?
On top of this, the ticket prices are extortionate for the gig with the very lowest price being $79.50 (without fees) for some seat right at the back (bring binoculars with you). The 'signature VIP package' is a whopping $2500 which doesn't include meeting either Axl, Slash or McKagan. I thought that was the whole reason for a VIP package in the first place? Don't worry, though... you get a cool signed poster and a tote bag within that package. Nice one, lads.
This once again just fuels speculation that the show isn't going to be all as it seems. Imagine watching your most beloved band on stage again and they couldn't even batter an eyelid at each other. They just want to play the songs the fans want to hear, then leave with everyone's money they splashed out on the gig for. It'll just come across such a terrible performance that's been jaded by the fact 'Paradise City' is playing.
I think I speak on behalf of everyone that it'll be cool to hear those rock songs that you wish to hear again, but is it all really worth the money, time and effort for three guys who hate each other to reform once again? If only I could go to the gig I could either be eating my own words, or prove my theory is right. At $140 for a half-decent seat, I don't think so.
Re: Why the Guns 'N Roses Reunion Is a Mistake
Even HufPo is weighing in on the reunion. 
This is why the Scooby Doo mystery act isn't going to work in this chapter of GNR. It's too big for such a strategy. In the Chinese era you didn't have mainstream outlets weighing in on such things. There's a microscope paying attention now.
Not sure what they should do but making minor announcements as we head towards Vegas and Coachella would do wonders to keep negativity to a minimum. A thousand nerds whining is one thing.....negative articles that can potentially be read by millions is another.
Like I said, we'd start seeing a backlash to those VIP packages and its likely not even GNR/TB doing it.
- monkeychow
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Re: Why the Guns 'N Roses Reunion Is a Mistake
I maintain they need to generate some mythology to go with this.
It's fucked but that's what the media is.
Axl's made so many strong statements - including that death will come before a reunion - that just contradicting himself without mythology makes it look like it's about money.
Likewise Slash has been on the record that until things are different and so on and so forth he won't be back. Now he seems to have joined the team brazil era band and all that entails - including Axl still vanishing from stuff like this recent TV appearance.
Give the media a story.
It can be one of two things IMO:
1. An actual story. Remember how Duff told his story of how he came to re-play with Axl. He was randomly staying in the same hotel, he thought 'fuck it i'll go say hello' - Team Brazil told him Axl was showering - Duff went 'That's cool I've seen him nude before" and walked in. Turns out Axl wasn't showering and they had a chat and it seemed like it would be fun to play. Good Story. Must have read it like 30 times in the media.
2. If there aint no story -like if it came from lawyers. Do an interview and explain the benifits. I've read many an interview from Tyler and Perry where they basically admit they fight all the time but go on to praise the chemistry they had as a group, speak of the sum of parts being less than the whole, talk of being fated to play together and similar shit. How easy would it be for Slash to talk about how rare a talent Axl was and he thought it would be fun to play together again a few times. Or they could talk about the chemistry back in the day.
It's sort of lame that they didn't do that but have the time to call out Steven Tyler and so on. If you won't make a statement yourselves expect others to generate stories for you.
- monkeychow
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Re: Why the Guns 'N Roses Reunion Is a Mistake
By way of example:
Look at the casual way Ac/Dc explain they are going on without Founder and songwriter malcom young and generally lay it out for the Rock or Bust world tour.
This sort of interview won over the media who gave them the benifit of the doubt about continuing on.
Re: Why the Guns 'N Roses Reunion Is a Mistake
I think the pricing complaints are totally justified, but unfortunately they're industry standard. But nobody cares that GnR aren't the bad guys.
Media writes a car crash? People go see it.
Media writes a lovefest? A couple more will go.
Money's in the bank for these gigs already, barring any unforeseen/foreseeable incidents & they get played, GnR don't have to give two, or even three, tits as to what some hack writes.
Re: Why the Guns 'N Roses Reunion Is a Mistake
Not that there aren't reasons against the reunion don't get me wrong, and that article touches slightly on some.
But come on, the positives well outweigh the negatives.
What promo can Axl do? Coachella's sold out, he was going to announce LV on Fallon but that got bumped & wasn't needed anyway.
He's shown he tours w/o interviews like your typical jobbing pop singer. For whatever reasons to him, it works & it works fine with me too.
- Intercourse
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Re: Why the Guns 'N Roses Reunion Is a Mistake
That article made alot of assumptions. maybe they are all delighted to be back together and are ready to deliver a great show...
I wish ta fuck that Axl would rehearse though, he needs to exercise that throat... if he dials this in I'm going to give up on him completely. If he won't rise back up for this run then its over for me.
Re: Why the Guns 'N Roses Reunion Is a Mistake
Whatever really. Just do something that puts him back in peoples living rooms. We love celebrities because we feel we know them. That's why those who know how to play the game can get so much good will.
I don't think it's necessary - at this stage.
IF they're doing a stadium tour then maybe, yea, you gotta go national &/or regional. But it depends on whether GnR are paid or are paid on tickets sold. Axl's proven he gives diddly dick to playing to empty arenas as long as the chequer gets cashed. Different with stadiums mind, poor ticket sales.
But yea Axl's somehow remained the public conscious. Just wait till you see the age range of people who turn out to these shows. If not him at least the brand is still a star name.
