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Re: If this place ever goes HTGTH way
I think this forum is pretty special and that is extremely rare to find on the net.
Every side is well represented.. u got your Left, Your Right , your down the middles and it makes for great debate,conversation...
would just hate for that dynamic to change cause then it would be just another forum and that isn't the purpose or the principles this place was founded upon.
Re: If this place ever goes HTGTH way
I will wish u all the best but quietly walk away to somewhere else.
My $0.02....
We shouldn't have to defend ourselves to these kind of accusations (again!) or even apologise that members feel this way. I'm of the same opinion as Neemo - I have a family to take care of, a business to run, and a house renovation to finish - you think I really give a shit that Axl had a bad night, hasn't changed the setlist enough, didn't attend RNRHOF, doesn't release enough music?
When I have some free time I might check in and see what GNR are up to, I might even spend a fortnight working long-ass hours to give this forum a long overdue redesign, but I shouldn't have to face baseless accusations like this topic, or read the same negative bullshit from the same troll members who drove me to take a 2 year hiatus from the very site I helped build.
If people are thinking the forum staff has "sold out" then why not just leave already? Plenty of other forums to post on. The community will continue without you, and we'll continue to discuss all aspects of the band, past and present, without censorship as we always have and always will.
There have been plenty of times I haven't liked or agreed with something GNR have done, and I've always voiced my opinion and been quick to blast Axl, band members, management etc. Then I read this article and it has changed the way I interact online (to the point where I basically don't, because I see just how shit the internet is).
Maybe some of you should read it, in particular the "Why Wasn't I Consulted?" section, and then you'll realise why I find this topic, and the others, so offensive - you might also see Axl/GNR differently too, and learn to just be happy with what's on offer, or at the very least you'll realise your opinion probably means shit to them and you can finally move on and devote your precious time to other things (like family, friends, your career, etc).
Full disclosure: Last time I saw GNR live was in 2006. I was there as a guest of Izzys and it had nothing to do with my working on this site. Maybe I could have requested tickets from a current band member or Izzy when GNR were last in the UK (2010 and 2012 I think) but I'm happy to say my life doesn't revolve around this band and I would have nothing to say to any of them anyway, other than to perhaps thank them for the cool music which I'm sure they've heard from a million other anonymous faces previously. When GNR does something new I'm happy to get in line to buy tickets, and will travel the hundreds of miles it takes to see them, and until that day comes I'll just get on with my own life and wish Axl and the band good health and happiness.
Re: If this place ever goes HTGTH way
Neemo wrote:....bono if you woulda had a bit more tact then none of this shit happens..
And by tact you mean passive aggressive insults rather than being blunt. Gotcha.
Anyways carry on.
Do you read what you actually write? Jesus Bono - you automatically insult anybody that has the nerve to have a different opinion than yours. It's not like you even say that's crazy - no, you go right to insulting the person. We all (well many of us at least) do it from time to time, but you do it pretty much every single time.
I don't mind taking subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) digs at people, but I try to avoid being flat out insulting. People can choose to ignore sutle; it's pretty hard to ignore you when you make posts directly insulting 4 or 5 people in the same post.
Half of what I do here is just for fun. I admit it. It's a stress release for me. I'm nowhere near as big of an ass in real life as I am here. I'm actually extremely laid back and I don't really care about or get excited or upset about much of anything. Maybe that's your thing too...I don't know.
Re: If this place ever goes HTGTH way
Bono wrote:Neemo wrote:....bono if you woulda had a bit more tact then none of this shit happens..
And by tact you mean passive aggressive insults rather than being blunt. Gotcha.
Anyways carry on.
Do you read what you actually write? Jesus Bono - you automatically insult anybody that has the nerve to have a different opinion than yours. It's not like you even say that's crazy - no, you go right to insulting the person. We all (well many of us at least) do it from time to time, but you do it pretty much every single time.
I don't mind taking subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) digs at people, but I try to avoid being flat out insulting. People can choose to ignore sutle; it's pretty hard to ignore you when you make posts directly insulting 4 or 5 people in the same post.
Half of what I do here is just for fun. I admit it. It's a stress release for me. I'm nowhere near as big of an ass in real life as I am here. I'm actually extremely laid back and I don't really care about or get excited or upset about much of anything. Maybe that's your thing too...I don't know.
I just want to repost this because some people may have forgotten the reality of the situation.
I like Bono. I agree with much of what he says and his opinions aren't that far off from mine on most things GnR related.
But...his posting style leaves a LOT to be desired. When people like me that usually agree with what he's saying are calling him out for posting like an ass, there's probably something to it. I've gotten into my share of scrapes with people, but even at the worst of times (at least since that porn guy the loved Robin left) my worst posts were nicer than Bono's posts where he's trying to be nice. He's been asked over and over again not to be disruptive with his posts, but it happens over and over again. It's not what he's saying; it's how he's saying it. That's not good for the site. It's not just bothering some of the leadership here; it's bothering regular posters too. Again, I usually agree with what he's saying, but the way he says everything is just over the top rude when anyone has a different opinion. I certainly wouldn't want to hang out with someone like that in real life and I sure the hell don't need to do it for a hobby.
You guys do whatever you think you need to do, but remember there's a price to pay for every decision. If you think the site is better off with a loudmouth, opinionated guy that can't seem to state an opinion without offending someone ever than it is with the guy that's kept it afloat for the last 2 years, then so be it. I'm all for free speech, but there are consequences that come along with that. You can say whatever you want, but you're still responsible for what you say. I can't believe there's even a decision to be made when it comes to banning one asshat poster (no matter who it is) or basically shitting on the guy that kept this place alive when it should have died a long time ago.
Re: If this place ever goes HTGTH way
buzzsaw wrote:Bono wrote:And by tact you mean passive aggressive insults rather than being blunt. Gotcha.
Anyways carry on.
Do you read what you actually write? Jesus Bono - you automatically insult anybody that has the nerve to have a different opinion than yours. It's not like you even say that's crazy - no, you go right to insulting the person. We all (well many of us at least) do it from time to time, but you do it pretty much every single time.
I don't mind taking subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) digs at people, but I try to avoid being flat out insulting. People can choose to ignore sutle; it's pretty hard to ignore you when you make posts directly insulting 4 or 5 people in the same post.
Half of what I do here is just for fun. I admit it. It's a stress release for me. I'm nowhere near as big of an ass in real life as I am here. I'm actually extremely laid back and I don't really care about or get excited or upset about much of anything. Maybe that's your thing too...I don't know.
I just want to repost this because some people may have forgotten the reality of the situation.
I like Bono. I agree with much of what he says and his opinions aren't that far off from mine on most things GnR related.
But...his posting style leaves a LOT to be desired. When people like me that usually agree with what he's saying are calling him out for posting like an ass, there's probably something to it. I've gotten into my share of scrapes with people, but even at the worst of times (at least since that porn guy the loved Robin left) my worst posts were nicer than Bono's posts where he's trying to be nice. He's been asked over and over again not to be disruptive with his posts, but it happens over and over again. It's not what he's saying; it's how he's saying it. That's not good for the site. It's not just bothering some of the leadership here; it's bothering regular posters too. Again, I usually agree with what he's saying, but the way he says everything is just over the top rude when anyone has a different opinion. I certainly wouldn't want to hang out with someone like that in real life and I sure the hell don't need to do it for a hobby.
You guys do whatever you think you need to do, but remember there's a price to pay for every decision. If you think the site is better off with a loudmouth, opinionated guy that can't seem to state an opinion without offending someone ever than it is with the guy that's kept it afloat for the last 2 years, then so be it. I'm all for free speech, but there are consequences that come along with that. You can say whatever you want, but you're still responsible for what you say. I can't believe there's even a decision to be made when it comes to banning one asshat poster (no matter who it is) or basically shitting on the guy that kept this place alive when it should have died a long time ago.
A-FUCKING-MEN
All I can add is that my only problem with Bono was how he talked to people, that was the maority of our arguments as it always slipped into being personal. I've never understood that. And that's how all these "debates" end up... About the poster, not the discussion. I can get along with anyone here without it turning into something ugly and stupid. And it never gets personal. I think it got that way once or twice with Buzz.
This place is going to go downhill FAST if you're choosing posters who are very devisive over the guy who poured everything into this site and was the best admin around. The vibe that was a gray cloud, will turn into black bile very quickly.
