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Re: SLASH 'Wasn't Disappointed' By AXL ROSE's Decision To Skip RnRHoF
Don't forget old Stevie. His groove is a major factor in the sound of AFD.
I was just about to mention what Intercourse just said. I'm not sure but I think that all the Izzy bashing started around the time the HoF went down.
That is correct. Before that he was pretty much a holy cow.
Re: SLASH 'Wasn't Disappointed' By AXL ROSE's Decision To Skip RnRHoF
A guy I used to work with was a classically trained drummer, really into jazz, fusion, and prog rock. He hated Slash with a passion. In his words, ”that guy is terrible. Terrible!”. He then he went into a monologue about how he plays off key.
Now I don't know dick about music, other than I know that some I like and some I don't. I really like what Slash does. In fact I have almost 200 songs by him on my iPod, in a playlist I've since named ”terrible, TERRIBLE”.
But I wonder, is what my ex coworker said true? And if it is, why does it sound so good?
It's fact folks:
He complimented the guitar riff, but questioned the construction of the solo. "It just seems like Slash decided to play in A-minor or whatever key he wanted instead of doing what might be best for the song." - Dizzy Reed on Slither
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Re: SLASH 'Wasn't Disappointed' By AXL ROSE's Decision To Skip RnRHoF
RaZor wrote:A guy I used to work with was a classically trained drummer, really into jazz, fusion, and prog rock. He hated Slash with a passion. In his words, ”that guy is terrible. Terrible!”. He then he went into a monologue about how he plays off key.
Now I don't know dick about music, other than I know that some I like and some I don't. I really like what Slash does. In fact I have almost 200 songs by him on my iPod, in a playlist I've since named ”terrible, TERRIBLE”.
But I wonder, is what my ex coworker said true? And if it is, why does it sound so good?
It's fact folks:
He complimented the guitar riff, but questioned the construction of the solo. "It just seems like Slash decided to play in A-minor or whatever key he wanted instead of doing what might be best for the song." - Dizzy Reed on Slither
Dizzy Reed is a joke.
Re: SLASH 'Wasn't Disappointed' By AXL ROSE's Decision To Skip RnRHoF
RaZor wrote:A guy I used to work with was a classically trained drummer, really into jazz, fusion, and prog rock. He hated Slash with a passion. In his words, ”that guy is terrible. Terrible!”. He then he went into a monologue about how he plays off key.
Now I don't know dick about music, other than I know that some I like and some I don't. I really like what Slash does. In fact I have almost 200 songs by him on my iPod, in a playlist I've since named ”terrible, TERRIBLE”.
But I wonder, is what my ex coworker said true? And if it is, why does it sound so good?
It's fact folks:
He complimented the guitar riff, but questioned the construction of the solo. "It just seems like Slash decided to play in A-minor or whatever key he wanted instead of doing what might be best for the song." - Dizzy Reed on Slither
So what do you think about that? Do you like what he did on Slither? Do you think it sounds good and goes well with the sound despite the key?
My response to my coworker was, ”who cares if it sounds good?” To which he responded that bring off key never sounds good.
I thought this was odd because Slash sounds great to me, and it's weird that a jazz guy would not like it just because Slash broke a musical rule since jazz is all about braking musical rules.
Re: SLASH 'Wasn't Disappointed' By AXL ROSE's Decision To Skip RnRHoF
Ok, I gotcha. I can't remember exactly but I don't think I was involved in the overall HoF discussion. In any case, I don't see what the HoF in 2012 would have to do with his contributions to AFD in 1987.
It's like when people say I must be on "Axl's side" because I like CD more than the stuff Slash has produced since he left the band. CD, Snake Pit, VR, etc etc all have NOTHING to do with what Slash did on those original GN'R records. I find what he did to be pure magic on those cuts and you can never take that away from him. If you go see him in concert today, he plays all those tunes as good or better than he ever has. But in terms of new material (not quantity mind you, but quality), I happen to like what Axl's done with Guns N' Roses since Slash left more than what Slash has put out without anyone else since leaving.
You may be remembering a discussion we had earlier too when I claimed Izzy was the most important songwriter in GN'R based on his credits. That was a good discussion and I've since changed my stance on that since although he's got the most credits, the best and most universally loved songs are due in Slash' favor. Izzy's more of a troubadour. A natural affinity for writing simple, catchy songs. Slash' peak level though is far, far higher.
My disposition towards Slash got nothing to do with his contributions in GN'R. It's that he seems to have rejected the spirit of the band at some point. Nothing wrong in quitting something you're not happy about doing, but when you try and spin the story like you're the one who wanted to stay "O.G." and Axl wanted to become pop or whatever, well it simply doesn't fly. CD proves this. Put Slash on there and it's a familiar GN'R album. You can't just slap together some tracks and release that as your album when you're the biggest band in the world. Even with Axl on it the Snakepit thing would have brought the hammer on the band in the mid 90s. It would be Load/Reload or the last Alice In Chains record. Sub par work that nobody cared about then and certainly don't remember today (the first Snakepit album is actually the only Slash release I couldn't find a torrent for). Axl was being perfectly sensible when he told him "hey, ok maybe, if you insist, but we gotta work on this. people expect a lot from us now". Well he didn't want that and ended up leaving the band. Fair enough. Just shup up about it and don't go around implying your stuff is "the proper gnr way" when it clearly isn't. GN'R was never half assed, settling for second best, doing it on the quick.
This thread prompted me to take the time and listen through his latest albums properly (yeah I know, here we go again) just to get the feel for what he's doing currently, something I haven't really done since Contraband (which was actually a decent rock n roll album).
Well, I wish I did it earlier. I count 4 riffs that could potentially have become good to great songs; Ghost (the best by far), By The Sword, You're A Lie and Anastasia. I was moved by exactly 1 solo; Bad Rain. Those saying he's currently doing the GN'R sound must be taking the piss. Snakepit and Contraband, yeah definitely, this however doesn't even compare. His work on the verses in most songs are non existent. There's almost nothing going on. Put on Rocket Queen and you know exactly what I mean. That can halfway work when you got a partner who brings something to the table. Fergie, Cornell and Stockdale do this in some degree, but mostly you're left with what can only be described as an uninspired Slash and tired old timers harping out some lyrics or Myles Kennedy (who doesn't have an original bone in his body) just kinda being there. Like it all you want but don't even attempt to call this gnr worthy. Soundwise, writing wise, solowise, anywise. An opening riff here and there and a solo once in a blue moon is not gn'r. If that's the result of Slash' 1 week philosophy he might consider upping his hours.
Being the amiable guy he is I'm not surprised there's not a lot of emotion in his current work though. What's he got to be pissed about right? I'm starting to suspect much of his greatest stuff in GN'R was inspired by the anger arising from Axl's incessant demands. On his own he doesn't seem to care nearly as much, and that transcribes to the music. This could actually explain Contraband too, the powerful need to "beat" Axl. Now he's just an old man looking for a quick buck and a comfort zone.
Commence flaming. 
Re: SLASH 'Wasn't Disappointed' By AXL ROSE's Decision To Skip RnRHoF
So what do you think about that? Do you like what he did on Slither? Do you think it sounds good and goes well with the sound despite the key?
My response to my coworker was, ”who cares if it sounds good?” To which he responded that bring off key never sounds good.
I thought this was odd because Slash sounds great to me, and it's weird that a jazz guy would not like it just because Slash broke a musical rule since jazz is all about braking musical rules.
I'm not a musician so I don't know what Dizzy is on about, or if he's just taking the piss (perhaps feeling the need to diss it just a little since they're "the enemy"). I suspect it's the latter though since I consider the solo to be one of Slash' best post GN'R.
If Slash has a tendency to do stuff that's a little odd (I wouldn't know) I could see why some music nerd might take some kind of objection to it.
