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- Me_Wise_Magic
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Re: Rob Zombie's Lords of Salem (Trailer)
Probably going to skip it. I like Rob Zombie's music; but his vision of horror movies can be a little too over indulgent with the gothic. ..And the weird transitions he puts in just for shock value doesn't make me scared. Just hurts my eyes. Especially since he got laughed right out the door when his remake of Halloween 2 got panned. The reviews for it are hilarious. I bet his wife will be in it as well. I hope the movie does turn out to be good and if it does I may pick it up when gets a home or digital release with friends.
Re: Rob Zombie's Lords of Salem (Trailer)
I agree that his movies get a little over the top with his view of horror, but I think he deserves huge credit for what he did with Halloween 1. I also give him a bit of a break on 2, because his heart wasn't in it, to my understanding. I'm pretty sure his hand was forced, in that it was either he did it, or the studio had some hack plotline and director ready to slap it together.
I actually liked 2, despite it's sloppiness.
Lords looks good to me from the trailer, so I'll see it.
- Me_Wise_Magic
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Re: Rob Zombie's Lords of Salem (Trailer)
I agree that his movies get a little over the top with his view of horror, but I think he deserves huge credit for what he did with Halloween 1. I also give him a bit of a break on 2, because his heart wasn't in it, to my understanding. I'm pretty sure his hand was forced, in that it was either he did it, or the studio had some hack plotline and director ready to slap it together.
I actually liked 2, despite it's sloppiness.
Lords looks good to me from the trailer, so I'll see it.
Right now the big horror flick I'm very interested in seeing is the Evil Dead remake. But..yeah I understand your points. The main problem with the remakes is they make both Lori and Lumus annoying, incompetent, and at times terrible people especially in 2. Loved Weird AL's cameo cause the man can do no wrong and is a musical genius. Also that most of the cast have to look like they woke up outta bed and look like Zombie himself. 
I heard he was interested in making a Halloween 3D film; but with a few twists & turns until the project got canceled due to budget and time constraints. I heard originally he wouldn't do H2 if the studio didn't agree to his script changes and direction input. He wanted a back to basics horror film which sounded interesting. He has potential to be the next Raimi and Carpenter if he gets into the psychology of what makes horror spin chilling and entertaining and not just on his "vision".
Re: Rob Zombie's Lords of Salem (Trailer)
Halloween 2007 was not BAD ASS on any level. Sorry. It was another mediocre indulgence fest by Zombie that reeked of unoriginality and the fact he seems to be a one-trick pony as a director who just keeps remaking House of 1,000 Corpses over and over.
I will agree, I was BLOWN AWAY by Devil's Rejects. I thought it was an awesome film that was the best horror film in years, with enough originality to make it exclusively Zombie's vision, but some throwback 70's/early-80's appeal to make it a traditional tribute to that period of horror.
Raimi is overrated, and he is NOT Carpenter. Even Carpenter is not Carpenter anymore, but i'd still take The Ward over what Zombie is typically doing.
Zombie's biggest fuck up with Halloween 2007 was he didn't stand by his vision. Had the entire film been young Michael killing, then going to Smith's Grove, and the final act being Michael breaking out of Smith's Grove and knocking off hospital staff (ala Halloween II-'81), I agree it could've been something special. But when he succumbed to the Weinstein's and did that condensed scene-for-scene remake of the original Halloween for the second-half of that film -- fucking destroyed ANY credibility it had. Destroyed it. Not to mention I utterly fucking hated how he depicted Dr. Loomis. Not only was it a disgrace to Pleasence, it was practically pissing on his grave.
I will admit for as much of a steaming turd that Halloween II-2009 was, I respected that it was a Zombie-purest film that just happened to have Michael Myers in it. It was Zombie's, "Batman Returns" moment where he was just allowed to do whatever the fuck he wanted and answer to no one.
Instead what we got was basically in tone a remake of Halloween 5. Really bad. A media whore Loomis, and a drunk slut Laurie was just embarassing. Not to mention his depiction of Brackett in both films (despite a solid SOLID performance from Brad Dourif) as the smart, yet savior, small town Sheriff was terribly cliche and reeked of unoriginality. It would've made more sense to just skip Malcolm McDowell, hire some B-level guy to play Brackett, and cast Dourif as Loomis and just let him play the exact same thing he played in both films. It would've flowed better. Despite it's sucktacular levels that Zombie found someway to make a worse film than Halloween: Resurrection, I did respect it was it's own thing in some sort of Howling II world. But at least Howling II had some humor, knew it sucked, and of course Fu Manchu in the lead. Halloween II-2009 didn't.
Zombie needs to stick to what he does best -- music. That's all. Sadly he doesn't even do that all that well anymore. Hellbilly Deluxe II was a drink coaster, and proved he is a washed up has-been.
Want to prove me wrong? Zombie... go do a Christmas movie. Do something Burton would do with Disney. Try something out of your world that doesn't have your lame ass, weak sauce dialogue that proves you can't write films worth a fucking shit.
I'd much rather have a Patrick Lussier Halloween 3D with Tom Atkins in the lead (again), than anything Zombie was thinking up beyond his young Michael stuff, and even that the dialogue was fucking white trash hammy garbage recycled over from the past two films and countless rock albums.
jmho
Re: Rob Zombie's Lords of Salem (Trailer)
Zombie had some good visuals in Halloween and his white trash portraits were over the top but realistic. That's pretty much the end of it though. It definitely doesn't help when the money vultures starts messing with mediocre work either.
I propose we start subsidizing movie tickets for anyone with an IQ under 95 so the industry doesn't have to take their primitive wants into account when making films anymore. These remakes are the equivalent of rattling a set of keys to a baby.
