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- metallex78
- Rep: 194
Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl
if Axl proved to be a good captain (and owner) in the past 18 years. Unfortunately he got the wheel and drove the car off the cliff.
Yep, which is what he claimed Slash and Duff would do.... 
Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl
But if you picture the 90's scenario, he had a point IF HIS INTENTIONS were really good (as in not wanting to have wives and families involved in case anyone died - they were proven junkies bloated out of proportion).
I still think the car is on a cliff but it`s falling and there's still hope that it can be turned around without a reunion... The annoying fact is that speed is increasing and the driver's reflexes aren't good...
- monkeychow
- Rep: 661
Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl
^ If that was the intent his lawyers should be fired....could have easily made it a term of the partnership agreement that in the event of Duff's body exploding or Slash injecting too much THEN he gets all rights....not before hand....and besides given he relied on the clause to quit the band when Duff and Slash were very much alive - it's hard to think the motivation was insurance against a death.
- monkeychow
- Rep: 661
Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl
I see it more as Axl doing what he had to do to survive.
He was emotionally unstable at the time, and if he kept causing riots, not being able to go on stage on time and or cancelling shows and so on then there was a possibility the band would fire him.
So he did what he had to do to protect himself.
In my opinion any other reason given from anyone is bullshit. It's common sense....he couldn't get control of his mental state but he could control the fallout and the ability of others to punish him.
Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl
monkeychow wrote:It does show the lengths people will go to if they think they can get back in the inner circle.
Some of these ideas would have been interesting too like the festival.
But at the same time even if it was Doug who told Slash and Duff Axl would bail on the tour if they didn't sign the rights over:
1. It was a plausible lie only because Axl was constantly showing up late, refusing to do things, getting angry, storming off stage etc and making life hard for the others.
2. Axl created an environment where there's a wall of handlers between him and the band so they can't discuss anything informally to check the record.
3. It wasn't doug who had the term inserted into the contract.
4. It wasn't doug who relied on the term when he quit the band in 1995 and asked Slash and Duff to join a new GNR with Axl as boss.
So i think there's only so many stones that can be cast in doug's direction.
Axl wanted the name and Doug got it for him. Plain and simple.
Noone can doubt that Axl was satisfied with the outcome. Anyone with half a brain could have found out that Slash and Duff didn't signed over the name just to make Axl happy. Axl knew money wasn't involved. He surely knew that Douggie made some dirty tricks to get the name for him. Axl was fully aware of his puppet's dirty politics, but didn't do anything, cause he got what he wanted. It's another story that he's a proven hipocrite who'd lie till hell freezes over to make himself look innocent.
BTW this whole blackmailing story wouldn't matter too much today, if Axl proved to be a good captain (and owner) in the past 18 years. Unfortunately he got the wheel and drove the car off the cliff.
How can you say Axl "surely knew" that "dirty tricks" were used in order to push Slash and Duff to sign over the name? Even Duff confirmed in his book that Axl was not present when the discussion with the management individual took place before the show. If he wasn't there in the room to hear for himself what was being discussed, you cannot say he "surely knew". That's an erroneous assumption to make.
The allegations of blackmail would be relevant today because any contract signed under duress is not legally enforceable. Hence, the validity of the contract and the ultimate outcome of ownership of the band name could/would be/have been affected.
Ali
- Mikkamakka
- Rep: 217
Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl
Common sense, Ali. You know, that something other people use. Believe me, nobody on Earth would sign over a million dollar worth property for nothing, just to see Axl smile. Except you, maybe.
- Mikkamakka
- Rep: 217
Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl
Get over it already.
Get over what?
