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Re: 11-21-2012 The Joint, Las Vegas (Being filmed in 3D)
Gibbo wrote:What was the show like in`93 mate .I would give my left testicle to see that what was the setlist
It was pretty insane. It was my first concert ever. I was 15...............
it was crazy how we had to go about getting tickets. We had to go lineup outside the mall for "lineup tickets". My buddy and I got there at 4:00am and there was already over 30 people there. It was below -20 degrees celsius and we waited in line till 9:00am when finally a lady came to the door and stood on a chair and talked to us all. By this time there was easily 400 people in line. She explained what was going to happen and she'd be back in a few minutes. When she came back she had security with her but all hell broke loose. People started pushing and shoving and I managed to weasle my way up to the front and as she went to hand a ticket to someone and I just jumped up and grabbed it
Got #6. So we had to come back a week later and lineup in an orderly fashion no pushing or shoving but this time you didn't need to wait in line for hours. I showed up 10 minutes before tickets went on sale and just stepped into line at position #6 Ended up with row 7 on the floor.
the show was insane. the crowd was bonkers. Brian May was the opener. I remember when the lights went out the place went absolutely insane. It was pretty much the best first concert experience ever. This is the setlist I could find. Not sure how accurate it is. I was surprised to see there was no Civil War. It's been a long time so all I remember from the set specifically was It's So Easy, Jungle, Dead Horse, Patience, Used to Love Her & Paradise City.
1. It's So Easy
2. Mr. Brownstone
3. Live and Let Die
4. Welcome to the Jungle
5. Attitude
6. Double Talkin' Jive
7. You Ain't the First
8. You're Crazy
9. Used to Love Her
10. Patience (with Imagine)
11. Knockin' on Heaven's Door
- Axl Rose Piano Solo
12. November Rain
13. Dead Horse
- Drum Solo
14. You Could Be Mine
- Slash Guitar Solo
15. (with Since I Don't Have You (Intro)) Sweet Child O' Mine
- Jam
16. (Pink Floyd's Mother Intro)Paradise City
Unreal mate up the front that would be insane 
:mosh:When they came to Australia in 93 my mum wouldnt let me go i think i was around 15 too 35 now
Re: 11-21-2012 The Joint, Las Vegas (Being filmed in 3D)
:Haha: the funny part was we had to drive 1.5 hours to Edmonton to see them. My buddies mom drove us cause neiher of us were old enough to drive. We did some shopping at the mall that day. I bought Poison's Native Tongue album. It's funny cause to this day that album reminds me of that day. Anyways She dropped us off and then came back to pick us up at like 10:30 or something. We neer got out till midnight and we got in shit. His mom said we should've coe out to let her know yeah right. Like we'd leave, not to mention the no re-entry thing.
Re: 11-21-2012 The Joint, Las Vegas (Being filmed in 3D)
:Haha: the funny part was we had to drive 1.5 hours to Edmonton to see them. My buddies mom drove us cause neiher of us were old enough to drive. We did some shopping at the mall that day. I bought Poison's Native Tongue album. It's funny cause to this day that album reminds me of that day. Anyways She dropped us off and then came back to pick us up at like 10:30 or something. We neer got out till midnight and we got in shit. His mom said we should've coe out to let her know
Re: 11-21-2012 The Joint, Las Vegas (Being filmed in 3D)
"Appetite For Democracy" setlist:
01. Chinese Democracy
02. Welcome to the Jungle
03. It's So Easy
04. Mr. Brownstone
05. Estranged
06. Rocket Queen
07. Richard Fortus guitar solo ("Blacklight Jesus of Transylvania")
08. Live and Let Die (Wings cover) (With "Happy Thanksgiving")
09. This I Love
10. Better
11. Motivation (Tommy Stinson on lead vocals, with band introductions)
12. Dizzy Reed piano solo ("No Quarter" by Led Zeppelin)
13. Catcher in the Rye
14. Street of Dreams
15. You Could Be Mine
16. DJ Ashba guitar solo ("Ballad of Death")
17. Sweet Child O'Mine
18. Another Brick in the Wall Part 2 (Pink Floyd cover, with Axl on piano)
19. November Rain
20. Objectify (Bumblefoot on lead vocals)
21. Don't Cry
22. Civil War
23. Jam
24. The Seeker (The Who cover)
25. Knockin' on Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan cover)
26. Jam
27. Nightrain
Encore:
28. Don't Let It Bring You Down (Neil Young cover)
29. Used to Love Her
30. Jam
31. Patience
32. Jam
33. Paradise City
- monkeychow
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Re: 11-21-2012 The Joint, Las Vegas (Being filmed in 3D)
Bono i hear if you havn't seen The Seeker live you never saw GNR.
Seeker > AFD/UYI tours they tell me.
- monkeychow
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Re: 11-21-2012 The Joint, Las Vegas (Being filmed in 3D)
Imagine the St Louis style incident that would occur when Metalalex and I are ejected for phone recordings of The Seeker...the whole of melbourne will erupt if Axl jumps into the crowd to kick my ass during THAT SONG.
- metallex78
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Re: 11-21-2012 The Joint, Las Vegas (Being filmed in 3D)
Imagine the St Louis style incident that would occur when Metalalex and I are ejected for phone recordings of The Seeker...the whole of melbourne will erupt if Axl jumps into the crowd to kick my ass during THAT SONG.
I'm pretty fit these days, I reckon I could go a few rounds with the fatty W. Axl "Willy Wonka" Rose.... 
Re: 11-21-2012 The Joint, Las Vegas (Being filmed in 3D)
Ali wrote:And yet he puts on a three hour show or more, night after night. If he didn't want to be there, why go to that extent?
I'm not saying he doesn't want to be there...but for the sake of discussion it's worth noting:
* Much of the 3 hour set time is actually time that does NOT involve axl. 3 guitar solos. A piano solo. A bass lead segment. Extended band jams before and after songs. All of this gives Axl a lot of time to go off stage, do oxygen, discuss the staging elements or whatever he does. Academically these things could be seen as a way to provide a headline length presentation without creating much burden on an Axl that wasn't inspired. Even many of the covers seem chosen for their ability to feature the band and not Axl - eg Riff Raff, While Lot of Rosie are essentially guitar jam sessions.
* Axl is contending with the "it's not really GNR" from a large part of the potential audience, who even if they go would turn into a "where's slash" crowd at the slightest hint of a fuckup from the new band. Along with an audience that is half anticipating him being late, walk off, or in some other way have an attitude. Extending the set to this type of length helps create the perception that it's value for money when people complain about these types of issues. Look at how often it's brought up as a justifcation for nearly anything at HTGTH....the 3 hour setlist is a defensive posture.
It's cloaked with a 3 hour set, but actually it seems they're doing the minimum possible - Axl couldn't be on stage less time and bill the show as GNR, there's not been any new GNR music premiered at a GNR show since rio3, the only new changes are occasional new covers which even then don't focus on Axl, as a response to bitching about a stagnant 6 year old setlist the band responded with the introduction of ONE classic song from the UYI era....and still seems to be only able to play works like OMG during soundcheck. MEanwhile as you pointed out - it seems Axl's tone is able to swap between his classic sound and this new sound at will yet 99% of the time is without rasp even when it doesn't artistly suit the tone of the songs or indeed the way they sounded to become the classic hits they are.
I wouldn't phrase it as he doesn't want to be there, as we don't know what he really feels, but there's def an argument that these things demonstrate the band is attempting to minimise the strain on him, that could be for health reasons (mental or physical) or some other reason....but it's obviously there. The last time something happened that was really above and beyond was that epic show in Tokyo that ran for record length, and before that at RIR3 when they premiered a lot of new songs that they didn't have to. The current situation - as excited as I am to be going to a show soon - seems to be a holding pattern.
Like I said before, I think whether or not the song is a cover or not is irrelevant insofar as it still requires effort to be exerted and songs like "Riff Raff" or "Whole Lotta Rosie" are not easy songs to sing. It's not a pure time filler from Axl's perspective as he still sings on the songs.
As far as the solos, extended jams, etc. that was a part of the old band's sets too on the UYI tours. If I look at two shows that I went to, the first being the Orlando, FL stop of the Metallica co-headlining tour vs. the last show of the Vegas residency, here is the break down I see:
Total songs (jams/solos not included):
Orlando 09/02/1992: 15
Vegas 11/24/2012: 27
Original GN'R songs:
Orlando 09/02/1992: 12
Vegas 11/24/2012: 20
Cover songs (with Axl on lead vocals):
Orlando 09/02/1992: 2
Vegas 11/24/2012: 6
Solos (including songs without Axl on lead vocals, e.g. "Motivation" or "Attitude):
Orlando 09/02/1992: 3
Vegas 11/24/2012: 5
So, while, yes, there is a chunk of time devoted to solos and jams, etc. looking at these two shows that I went to, there is also a difference in the number of GN'R songs, and cover songs, that are played. So, from my own personal experience, I'm getting more bang for my buck in terms of GN'R songs than I did 20 years ago. Which, again, is not to say that ALL of that is terms of GN'R originals or only songs with Axl singing. But, it seems I'm getting more of that than I did 20 years ago.
Ali
Re: 11-21-2012 The Joint, Las Vegas (Being filmed in 3D)
You're saying a Guns N' Roses show today offers more than a Guns N' Roses show 20 years ago? I'll take quality over quantity everyday of the week but to each their own. The vast majority would agree the cost/bang ratio was way better 20 years ago.
