4tus on not being accepted as GN'R

Mikkamakka

How does it make you feel when people constantly criticize Guns and your band mates so unfairly?

I get it, I understand people want what they remember the band as being. A lot of times people have a hard time accepting. Fans of Fleetwood Mac before they got Stevie Nicks, if they were fans of Peter Green, they didn’t get it. Most of those people, it took them a long time to accept Fleetwood Mac as a different band because it wasn’t Peter Green. The same deal with the Santana band and all the changes that band went through. For people to accept Van Halen with Sammy Hagar singing, even though that was their most successful time and they sold more records with Sammy Hagar, a lot of people that liked Van Halen from the beginning didn’t want to hear anything but David Lee Roth on it. Same thing with Genesis. I have a hard time listening to Genesis with Phil Collins singing after Peter Gabriel. It just goes on and on, the list is quite long.

And I think it’s harder when you change singers because it’s such a huge voice of the music and really that’s like the most personal aspect and connection to a band is generally through the singer. And when you change that it changes the character of the band. And in the same respect, changing anybody else makes it different as well. And it’s a different band. A lot of people accept it and a lot of people don’t. And that’s ok.

Full interview with very little GN'R here:
http://www.glidemagazine.com/articles/5 … -tats.html

jonesy

Thats all well and good, referring to Fleetwood Mac, VH, Genesis etc, but they each had major hits with their new line-ups, and went on to create alot of output. Something GnR has not managed to do with any line up post UYI.

monkeychow

I think that's a good response to that question from Fortus.

He seems to respect and understand that classic line ups are important to a lot of people, and he even feels the same way about some bands himself.

Quite a balanced and mature way to handle the question I think. Much better than if he'd suggested classic fans just need to move on or shouldn't like the old line up or whatever.

I know as a fan, I have a deep and lifelong connection with the old line up, but I also recognise that the current guys are great players and put on a great show.

James

jonesy wrote:

Thats all well and good, referring to Fleetwood Mac, VH, Genesis etc, but they each had major hits with their new line-ups, and went on to create alot of output. Something GnR has not managed to do with any line up post UYI.

Yep. Once again, Fortus talks out of his ass.

Mikkamakka

Kim Thayil's Beard wrote:

jonesy wrote:
Thats all well and good, referring to Fleetwood Mac, VH, Genesis etc, but they each had major hits with their new line-ups, and went on to create alot of output. Something GnR has not managed to do with any line up post UYI.
Yep. Once again, Fortus talks out of his ass.

I saw this thread discussed at another board, and some said that those who share this opinion are wrong, cause the record industry changed and bands barely release new stuff these days. They said CD was released only 4 years ago, so it's normal to wait another 4 years for the follow-up.

Battered wives.

Axlin16

Pretty much agree with the other comments here.

The major difference 4tus is that THIS GN'R has done absolutely nothing. You remain touring musicians. Axl, Tommy, Dizzy & Chris don't count as "GN'R", with additional musicians, simply because they had writing credits on CD.

This band needs stability (2009-12), plus a FEW albums worth of material. Then i'll say they've made their mark as Guns N' Roses.

Situations like Alice In Chains, or Queen are a different story because their frontmen died. They HAVE to find replacements to move on, and they did. They toured and they released new music. They also continued promoting that image and moving in that direction. Look at AIC, the whole operation is back up and running now as if Layne were still with them, like a reunion of sorts.

GN'R never EVER did what AIC or Soundgarden has done. EV-ER. So don't play up like you're comparable to that scenario. You're not. Not yet. But until uncle Axl gets off his ass and has THIS BAND record a couple albums and pushes this as GN'R on a consistent, visable basis... you're just a touring player in the world's greatest cover band.

war

obviously, if you haven't been to a show or watched the vids very little has been done to earn your respect by the band when there is no new material to hang your hat on.

never the less...............

the reason for this IS.... the original band.

or atleast......... the last remaining piece of it.

========== Axl Rose===============

it's kind of ironic. the one remaining original member provides any and all remaining significance to gnr..

while

at the same time he continues to hold back the band that is called gnr from acting as such.

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