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Re: Faith No More Guitarist Breaks Silence
I think Patton is to blame for that. I really do. Maybe i'm wrong, but I think Patton's appeal brought a VERY ARROGANT aspect to FNM fans. That somehow thought they were "above" The Real Thing. I've seen the same thing in Pearl Jam fans that thought Ten was juvenile, when PJ turned all self-reflective and artsy.
Pound-for-pound, my personal opinion aside about Album of the Year... The Real Thing is without ANY doubt their best work. It just is.
It'd be like someone arguing that GN'R Lies is better than AFD in a GN'R community. The absolutely only argument i've ever heard against Real Thing is that the album was popular and a bunch of casuals liked it. Ummm... yeah, because it's uh -- good?
Bottom line -- no one would even know the name of Faith No More if it wasn't for The Real Thing. They were flash-in-the-pan nobodies with Chuck.
This.
An overwhelming majority of modern day FNM fans are mainly Patton fans. By that, I mean... Those hardcore Patton motherfuckers that go out and buy EVERYTHING with his name on it. I'm down with like... 80% of the shit I've heard... But, there are bonafide "Patton Snobs" that are into every single fucking fart noise that passes between his lips, including, but not limited to, his records that consist of him making fucked up noises into a microphone for 45 minutes...
To them, he's a "true avant garde artist" that can do no wrong...
Unless they're referring to The Real Thing... Which, by his minions, is generally considered to be "sub par and simplistic" and is a result of Patton "not having the time to adequately place his unique, visionary stamp" on the thing. It's a bullshit way of keeping his mystique alive...
It's an amazing record. Definitely their best. I prefer Angel Dust, but in the same way I prefer ...And Justice For All. I recognize that Master Of Puppets is Metallica's best album, but Furbush considers Justice to be their masterpiece to his ears...
Axlin, I love that you brought up Pearl Jam.... Everyone that was around and wired into the scene back then knows that PJ very purposefully got progressively shittier and more abrasive for years to combat the backlash that had begun with Cobain's discouraging remarks about their "integrity"...They withdrew completely. Anything that had hooks or groove was shelved until Lost Dogs dropped with very few exceptions... They even lost me in that decade. And I supported that band long after everyone else in my circle of friends did. I stuck around until No Code before I too, jumped ship...
During that stretch, they lost a ton of their original fans, but kept the die hards and amassed a very Patton-like cult following of their own snobs that acted like Ten and Vs. were pieces of shit and Binaural was a brilliant artistic statement... I'm not saying any of their music is trash, by any means... but, to deny the instrumental perfection or the raw power, energy and melodic emotional soul of their early work is pointless. A compelling argument cannot be made.
Re: Faith No More Guitarist Breaks Silence
I cannot stand people who act like they are "above" albums, just because a bunch of people liked them.
Cobain was a fucking snob, who was the BIGGEST sellout to MTV in those days, yet somehow thought he was beyond them. I thought he was talented, but even as a little kid I could not stand him or when he spoke. Not to mention Nirvana was easily the least band of the big four. Easily.
Re: Faith No More Guitarist Breaks Silence
Axlin12 wrote:I cannot stand people who act like they are "above" albums, just because a bunch of people liked them.
Cobain was a fucking snob, who was the BIGGEST sellout to MTV in those days, yet somehow thought he was beyond them. I thought he was talented, but even as a little kid I could not stand him or when he spoke. Not to mention Nirvana was easily the least band of the big four. Easily.
Over the past two years, I've developed a "There's a time and a place for everything" attitude towards music and artists I used to previously be a snob about.
That's kinda how I feel as well. There's somedays I feel like 80's power rock and so I play melodic stuff or just straight glam, and there's other days I want grunge, and others post-grunge, some country, some days pop. They all have their place.
Rap is probably the only genre that i've retired from. I used to be able to tolarate it, but now I cannot stand it tbph. I can't stand the fucking culture it created of the dumbest mother fucking music fans ever, trashy whores on the dance floor that "think" they are dancing, the way people talk, text lingo, Colt Ford...
Thanks rap, you fucking cunt whore.
Re: Faith No More Guitarist Breaks Silence
Which I also agree with. When I first got exposed to rap, frankly it was FNM. Then suddenly the explosion of gangsta rap happened. Rap was cool. REALLY cool. It was rebellious, had a statement, self-reflective, and frankly deep.
Then it became everything it rallied against. It amazes me the people today that point their finger at the Hair Metal scene of the 80's and laugh at it as commercial, yet turn on hits radio and listen to the latest rap it. Rap is the modern-day hair metal scene, except rap's commercialized scene has lasted like 15 years.
Frankly if I could trade, I would've rather had hair metal popular for 15-20 years, and let rap flame out after about five years.
All rap today is is about how many bitches you got, how much you get paid, and how big you roll in your Bentley's and mansions.
Yep... sounds like hair to me.
Re: Faith No More Guitarist Breaks Silence
Well it's all been done now. They only way to top that era and give a rebirth to it would be to get a guy with so much talent, and so much heat, that people actually believe the artist is literally a straight up OG and dangerous as hell.
Like this...
Snoop Dogg as went all babyface family man, so some guy he's pushing comes around and kills him off. Literally i'm serious. Kills him off. But it's all a work. Snoop disappears off the face of the earth, and this guy has suspect written all over him, and uses that as a work to say how soft Snoop was and he's glad he's dead or some shit, and people buy it and just drop back into the whole scene again thinking this dude is fucking crazy. BUT, he has to have actual talent.
The authorities would flip when they found out it was all bullcrap, but Snoop and all those guys have enough money to fight it all off.
It sounds absolutely insane, like WWE imitating life, but it would take something like that to restore that scene and give rap credibility again. Imo. I think it'd take something that drastic, otherwise it'd be considered just as laughable as the whole Kristal and C-notes and Thongs scene that it's been for a decade.
